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White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823334
United States
11/20/2009 8:18 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

sure as we get worse heading for the great depression part 2,
i think those hospitals will be doing anything for cash.

after all cash is king, we all be sucking the dollars dick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 823386

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Catholic hospitals will not do abortions and the government will not be able to do anything about it. And no, cash is not king. Life is.
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 8:19 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

The issue is FEDERAL FUNDING for abortions. No one has said one word about what is paid for with private funds.

And while I do oppose abortions in general, that is not what this thread is about but rather making the rest of us PAY for the abortions of others.

NO ONE has the right to force me to do this.


My taxes are used every single day to perpetuate generations of welfare breeders whose only goal in life is to spew out another crotch nugget so they can get a bigger welfare check.

Unwanted kids often wind up in foster care, orphanages, or jail.

You don't like paying for abortion? I don't like paying for breeders and their unwanted offspring.

And unlike you, I AM forced to pay for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 813591



I am forced to pay for those things as well. I don't like it any more than you do but I do draw the line at killing to prevent it. Besides, abortion would be killing the only innocent person in that situation. Does someone deserve t die for what their parents do?
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 778817
United States
11/20/2009 8:20 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

White House at odds with bishops over abortion




The church should stay the fuck out of politics or lose their tax exempt status.

I'm sick of religious assholes telling everybody how to live.




Don't expect them to pay for your lifestyle then. You can't have it both ways.
 Quoting: Bluebird



What? That doesn't even make any sense.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823386
United States
11/20/2009 8:21 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

A spokesperson for the Manhattan Declaration was just on the news saying that they are not advocating civil disobedience but that it would be a consideration should it come to that as it did with civil rights issues.

This effects the nationwide very large system of Catholic Hospitals and others ones run by different denominations also being forced to perform abortions and such in their facilities.

They will not do it and will not obey any law that demands them to do so.

The government cannot dictate matters of conscience and expect all to meekly comply.



sure as we get worse heading for the great depression part 2,
i think those hospitals will be doing anything for cash.

after all cash is king, we all be sucking the dollars dick.



LOL! You really don't understand the issue. No, the Catholic Hospitals will not and cannot be forced to perform abortions. They will CLOSE their doors first because they are not that profitable in the first place. Many receive huge charity subsidies.

They have already said they will NOT obey any laws demanding them to perform abortions and if the feds try to close them over this, so be it.

But you can always dream of forcing others to accept your lifestyle. Not going to happen in this instance, however.
 Quoting: Bluebird



once agin please stop with the lifestyle bullshit.

i don't fuck , i don't make babay, i never have.
no everone falls into the things you make up in your mind.
im not forcing anyone to do anything,
sorry, you'll have to blaim some one other then me.

buy the way your an asshole foe even saying that i am forcing my life style on to other people,
it you who is for your life style on others
hypocrite.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 813591
United States
11/20/2009 8:22 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

White House at odds with bishops over abortion




The church should stay the fuck out of politics or lose their tax exempt status.

I'm sick of religious assholes telling everybody how to live.




Don't expect them to pay for your lifestyle then. You can't have it both ways.
 Quoting: Bluebird



My lifestyle?

I'm a middle aged woman with no kids. What's my lifestyle?

I can't stand religion, I don't believe in God, and I'm sick of people who have drunk the Christ Kool-Aid telling everyone else what to do.

Religious shitheads should just STFU and live your own lives the way you see fit, and let the rest of us do the same.

If God exists, and abortion is a sin, then let Him sort it out in the end. Can't He do His own work? Why do you feel you all have to do it for Him?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823386
United States
11/20/2009 8:25 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

sure as we get worse heading for the great depression part 2,
i think those hospitals will be doing anything for cash.

after all cash is king, we all be sucking the dollars dick.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Catholic hospitals will not do abortions and the government will not be able to do anything about it. And no, cash is not king. Life is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 823334



so says some middle class person with enuff in their life to not be poor or homeless,
lols.

sorry i know you want to make the world go back to some
"golden age",
but cash is the only thing that matters,
you may live in side your head and not see the real world,
it's there just waiting for you to fuck up.
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 8:28 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

A spokesperson for the Manhattan Declaration was just on the news saying that they are not advocating civil disobedience but that it would be a consideration should it come to that as it did with civil rights issues.

This effects the nationwide very large system of Catholic Hospitals and others ones run by different denominations also being forced to perform abortions and such in their facilities.

They will not do it and will not obey any law that demands them to do so.

The government cannot dictate matters of conscience and expect all to meekly comply.



sure as we get worse heading for the great depression part 2,
i think those hospitals will be doing anything for cash.

after all cash is king, we all be sucking the dollars dick.



LOL! You really don't understand the issue. No, the Catholic Hospitals will not and cannot be forced to perform abortions. They will CLOSE their doors first because they are not that profitable in the first place. Many receive huge charity subsidies.

They have already said they will NOT obey any laws demanding them to perform abortions and if the feds try to close them over this, so be it.

But you can always dream of forcing others to accept your lifestyle. Not going to happen in this instance, however.



once agin please stop with the lifestyle bullshit.

i don't fuck , i don't make babay, i never have.
no everone falls into the things you make up in your mind.
im not forcing anyone to do anything,
sorry, you'll have to blaim some one other then me.

buy the way your an asshole foe even saying that i am forcing my life style on to other people,
it you who is for your life style on others
hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 823386




No, the title of this thread and the disucssion is the funding of abortions with tax dollars and forcing people to finance it that way.

I am merely stating with I object to that being done to me and others who object to this practice of making others pay for their abortions. Not a personal you but a conversational one.

And no, I am not expecting anybody to pay for anything that is the result of my own doing.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823386
United States
11/20/2009 8:30 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

Doesn't all of Christianity condemn the taking of innocent life?



It does, but many of us consider war and the death penalty a far worse example of that.




It is the INTENTIONAL taking of INNOCENT life that I object to. Denial of a human being the right to take that first breath as in right to LIFE.


But the subject, once again, is the federal funding of this act. The forcing of one person to pay for the lifestyle of another.

And for the record, I am not even very religious, rather casual about it in fact. And a registered Independent for those who can only launch ad himenim attacks.

And I still ain't paying for your abortions no matter what you call me. Count on it!



once again is cheaper to pay flat fee at one time or fund the like of an unwanted child in the system,
if just say 10% of those babys that you didn't abort,
go in to the jail system,
the cost to you the tax payer would be so high that you would be next to homeless and you 'd be with out even the basic things the kids you didn't about would have in jail.
and say the other 90% year after year , as you get older would take even more away from the system intell
the system only suported these people and not you.




How about we just kill everybody who is a drag on the system then? Want to go first? I didn't think so. How about extending the right to chose to others as well. Those babies might like to have a say in whether they live or die as well.

We don't yet kill people because of what they might some day do.
 Quoting: Bluebird



im sorry im not a drag on the system, there you go again thinking im something imnot, wow do you allway
just make mistakes like that?

and yes the rich make up our world and they do choose
who lives and dies in the country, not that you'd know that from what i have read here,
sadly, alot of people have this veiwpoint you do,
if tomorrow the rich stopped paying up and the government stopped working how long do you really thing any of these ideas you have would mean anything?
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 8:32 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

White House at odds with bishops over abortion




The church should stay the fuck out of politics or lose their tax exempt status.

I'm sick of religious assholes telling everybody how to live.




Don't expect them to pay for your lifestyle then. You can't have it both ways.



My lifestyle?

I'm a middle aged woman with no kids. What's my lifestyle?

I can't stand religion, I don't believe in God, and I'm sick of people who have drunk the Christ Kool-Aid telling everyone else what to do.

Religious shitheads should just STFU and live your own lives the way you see fit, and let the rest of us do the same.

If God exists, and abortion is a sin, then let Him sort it out in the end. Can't He do His own work? Why do you feel you all have to do it for Him?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 813591




It is NOT a personal "you" but in keeping with the discussion. Those advocating tax funded abortions do not have the right to demand that others pay for their lifestyles. If you do not do this, then this discussion is not about you. And it was going on long before you started posting.

I would be happy to live my life the way I see fit and that way does NOT include being forced to be a party to somebody else's abortion.

People are free to do whatever they want in life but they are not free to demand that others pay for it.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 813591
United States
11/20/2009 8:33 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

You don't like paying for abortion? I don't like paying for breeders and their unwanted offspring.

And unlike you, I AM forced to pay for it.



I am forced to pay for those things as well. I don't like it any more than you do but I do draw the line at killing to prevent it. Besides, abortion would be killing the only innocent person in that situation. Does someone deserve t die for what their parents do?
 Quoting: Bluebird


It isn't a baby- it's an embryo.

It's alive- but it isn't truly living.

Most women abort in the first trimester. I don't have a problem with terminating an embryo in such an early stage.

I do not consider this murder. You might. But no one would force you to abort.

You religitards OTOH, would just LOVE to see abortion completely outlawed for everyone.

Yay- bring back the knitting needles and Clorox! Yippee!

People should just butt out of the lives of others, and live their own lives the way they see fit.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823466
United States
11/20/2009 8:34 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

My lifestyle?

I'm a middle aged woman with no kids. What's my lifestyle?

I can't stand religion, I don't believe in God, and I'm sick of people who have drunk the Christ Kool-Aid telling everyone else what to do.

Religious shitheads should just STFU and live your own lives the way you see fit, and let the rest of us do the same.

If God exists, and abortion is a sin, then let Him sort it out in the end. Can't He do His own work? Why do you feel you all have to do it for Him?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 813591

Don't get your bloomers in a knot. Nobody is popping off about religious beliefs. The thread is not about abortion and religion. It's about having to pay for someone's abortion.
I have my own beliefs on the subject of abortion, but my beliefs are not at issue here. It's all about government funding for abortion. Don't ask me to fund your abortion.
Simple as that.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 412938
United States
11/20/2009 8:34 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

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Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 8:34 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

sure as we get worse heading for the great depression part 2,
i think those hospitals will be doing anything for cash.

after all cash is king, we all be sucking the dollars dick.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Catholic hospitals will not do abortions and the government will not be able to do anything about it. And no, cash is not king. Life is.



so says some middle class person with enuff in their life to not be poor or homeless,
lols.

sorry i know you want to make the world go back to some
"golden age",
but cash is the only thing that matters,
you may live in side your head and not see the real world,
it's there just waiting for you to fuck up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 823386




Be that as it may, Catholic Hospitals will close their doors before they will perform abortions. That is a fact and an official position.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 8:37 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

You don't like paying for abortion? I don't like paying for breeders and their unwanted offspring.

And unlike you, I AM forced to pay for it.



I am forced to pay for those things as well. I don't like it any more than you do but I do draw the line at killing to prevent it. Besides, abortion would be killing the only innocent person in that situation. Does someone deserve t die for what their parents do?


It isn't a baby- it's an embryo.

It's alive- but it isn't truly living.

Most women abort in the first trimester. I don't have a problem with terminating an embryo in such an early stage.

I do not consider this murder. You might. But no one would force you to abort.

You religitards OTOH, would just LOVE to see abortion completely outlawed for everyone.

Yay- bring back the knitting needles and Clorox! Yippee!

People should just butt out of the lives of others, and live their own lives the way they see fit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 813591




People should butt out of my life and stop demanding that I pay for their abortions.

That is the issue. Not abortions and not religion and it's not about you.

It's about a portion of the population trying to force another portion to fund their abortions.

Some of us object to that and refuse to do it.

Don't demand that we do. Then there is no problem.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823386
United States
11/20/2009 8:41 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

sure as we get worse heading for the great depression part 2,
i think those hospitals will be doing anything for cash.

after all cash is king, we all be sucking the dollars dick.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Catholic hospitals will not do abortions and the government will not be able to do anything about it. And no, cash is not king. Life is.



so says some middle class person with enuff in their life to not be poor or homeless,
lols.

sorry i know you want to make the world go back to some
"golden age",
but cash is the only thing that matters,
you may live in side your head and not see the real world,
it's there just waiting for you to fuck up.




Be that as it may, Catholic Hospitals will close their doors before they will perform abortions. That is a fact and an official position.
 Quoting: Bluebird



ok good then it would make a lot of jobs for the rest of us who are not part of the catholic hospitals, im sure
alot of companys would like to get a part of all that cash
they would be giveing up,

hell i think it would be better for our country,
maybe some of them would move to the holyland or the EU,
then they can enjoy watching the muslums make 3rd classes
people out of them.

it sure would stream line america.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823466
United States
11/20/2009 8:41 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

It isn't a baby- it's an embryo.

It's alive- but it isn't truly living.

Most women abort in the first trimester. I don't have a problem with terminating an embryo in such an early stage.

I do not consider this murder. You might. But no one would force you to abort.

You religitards OTOH, would just LOVE to see abortion completely outlawed for everyone.

Yay- bring back the knitting needles and Clorox! Yippee!

People should just butt out of the lives of others, and live their own lives the way they see fit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 813591

You feeble argument indicates that you do not have anything worthwhile to contribute to this thread.

IT'S ABOUT ABORTION AND GOVERNMENT FUNDING, STUPID.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 813591
United States
11/20/2009 8:43 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

That is the issue. Not abortions and not religion and it's not about you.

It's about a portion of the population trying to force another portion to fund their abortions.

Some of us object to that and refuse to do it.

Don't demand that we do. Then there is no problem.
 Quoting: Bluebird


If they stop funding everything for illegals and welfare breeders too, then I will accept not funding abortions.

Think that's gonna happen?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 803157
United States
11/20/2009 8:44 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

oh no its popeye meets stonewall jackson

you'll pay for their abortions and like it little scurry around and do nothing man
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 822142



I think not. I think if they think I am paying for abortions that there will be some fire, building destruction, infrastructure destroyed, injured, etc.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823386
United States
11/20/2009 8:44 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

It isn't a baby- it's an embryo.

It's alive- but it isn't truly living.

Most women abort in the first trimester. I don't have a problem with terminating an embryo in such an early stage.

I do not consider this murder. You might. But no one would force you to abort.

You religitards OTOH, would just LOVE to see abortion completely outlawed for everyone.

Yay- bring back the knitting needles and Clorox! Yippee!

People should just butt out of the lives of others, and live their own lives the way they see fit.

You feeble argument indicates that you do not have anything worthwhile to contribute to this thread.

IT'S ABOUT ABORTION AND GOVERNMENT FUNDING, STUPID.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 823466



* looks around the forum*,
so?
thid glp, we will talk about what we want
sorry if that hurts your feelings
maybe you should go some where other then here if you can't hack it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823386
United States
11/20/2009 8:46 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

oh no its popeye meets stonewall jackson

you'll pay for their abortions and like it little scurry around and do nothing man



I think not. I think if they think I am paying for abortions that there will be some fire, building destruction, infrastructure destroyed, injured, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 803157



lols threats????

got to love the the stupid people,
that all you can do?

thank god, your just a AC wanker.
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 8:51 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

sure as we get worse heading for the great depression part 2,
i think those hospitals will be doing anything for cash.

after all cash is king, we all be sucking the dollars dick.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Catholic hospitals will not do abortions and the government will not be able to do anything about it. And no, cash is not king. Life is.



so says some middle class person with enuff in their life to not be poor or homeless,
lols.

sorry i know you want to make the world go back to some
"golden age",
but cash is the only thing that matters,
you may live in side your head and not see the real world,
it's there just waiting for you to fuck up.




Be that as it may, Catholic Hospitals will close their doors before they will perform abortions. That is a fact and an official position.



ok good then it would make a lot of jobs for the rest of us who are not part of the catholic hospitals, im sure
alot of companys would like to get a part of all that cash
they would be giveing up,

hell i think it would be better for our country,
maybe some of them would move to the holyland or the EU,
then they can enjoy watching the muslums make 3rd classes
people out of them.

it sure would stream line america.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 823386




Yeah, but you sure will miss all that charity money that is put into Catholic Hospitals and it sure will make the costs go up without it.

But you are right that it would more than likely be appreciated far more elsewhere. And that is what would most like occur if the federal govt tries to push this.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817101
United States
11/20/2009 8:54 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

I still have a problem also with federal tax money going to pay for someone's abortion of which I would never support. If they want an abortion and beilieve in then fine, pay for it themselves. Or perhaps those who do believe in abortion would set up a private fund so that they would pay for all those seeking to abort. Perhaps put a check box like they do on the income tax papers for election supports. You can check that box to add some of your income tax refund or pay some into an account if you believe abortions should be paid by someone other then the person getting them. I however do NOT want to be Made to pay for someone else's aborting in my mind a baby. In your mind it may not be a baby, be that as it may be. I have felt my child move inside me, I knew when I was only 2 days pregnant that she was there. I knew my first baby was a girl, my second a boy. Just as I knew I was pregnant almost right away. I felt different, I started dreaming of my children when I was just pregnant. This was in the 70's before early pregnancy tests. So do not make me pay to kill another person's child. I know of too many people looking for children to adopt and love.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 823386
United States
11/20/2009 8:58 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

sure as we get worse heading for the great depression part 2,
i think those hospitals will be doing anything for cash.

after all cash is king, we all be sucking the dollars dick.

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Catholic hospitals will not do abortions and the government will not be able to do anything about it. And no, cash is not king. Life is.



so says some middle class person with enuff in their life to not be poor or homeless,
lols.

sorry i know you want to make the world go back to some
"golden age",
but cash is the only thing that matters,
you may live in side your head and not see the real world,
it's there just waiting for you to fuck up.




Be that as it may, Catholic Hospitals will close their doors before they will perform abortions. That is a fact and an official position.



ok good then it would make a lot of jobs for the rest of us who are not part of the catholic hospitals, im sure
alot of companys would like to get a part of all that cash
they would be giveing up,

hell i think it would be better for our country,
maybe some of them would move to the holyland or the EU,
then they can enjoy watching the muslums make 3rd classes
people out of them.

it sure would stream line america.




Yeah, but you sure will miss all that charity money that is put into Catholic Hospitals and it sure will make the costs go up without it.

But you are right that it would more than likely be appreciated far more elsewhere. And that is what would most like occur if the federal govt tries to push this.
 Quoting: Bluebird



sadly this coutry has more things it need to worry about then if the catholic hospitals deside to close their doors,
wich
im wondering if they can really do,
im sure that if they did that and made a country wide
health care crisis,
the governemt could order them to remain open,
and under president executive orders,
and homeland sec laws + the patriot act,
there is nothing the hospitals can do about it,

they can make all of them part of the government
in a time of crisis.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 817101
United States
11/20/2009 9:16 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

There have been a whole lot of doctors come out and say that if they are going to be forced to perform an abortion under goverment mandate they will not practice anymore. I don't blame them at all. They pay out the wazoo now for malpractice insurance and till that is capped there are problems. My doctor quit delivering babies because his insurance went up so high. He could be sued he said for anything wrong with a baby whether it was his fault or not. He would have to defend his self.
There is so much crap in this bill that they have put in I just hope they don't pass it. Nor do I want to see abortions totally outlawed. Those who want to pay for it themselves shold be able to get it within a time period. Not up to the 8th month as in Kansas was doing. I don't want to see a time period where women are forced to go to back alleys again or drastic measures as in times past.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784308
Australia
11/20/2009 9:20 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

Doesn't all of Christianity condemn the taking of innocent life?

So why is it always just the Catholic Church that stands up against abortion?

And yet we are daily reviled on this very forum.

Where are the rest of the Christians when it comes to preventing the 5,000 murdered daily in this country?

The silence is deafening.
 Quoting: Bluebird


cant argue with any of the points you made
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 784308
Australia
11/20/2009 9:25 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

THIS IS WHAT OBAMA PROMISED PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO GET ELECTED. TAKE A LOOK


 Quoting: PACNWguy


since when did planned parenthood mean abortion? I thought it was all about education and then choices in contraception.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 787323
United States
11/20/2009 9:26 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

What would Jewish law have to do with Christian concepts? Not binding to them.
 Quoting: Bluebird


Uh...how about the 10 commandments? Or all of Deuteronomy? Leviticus?
Matt. 5:17-19?

I wish you people would realize that Christianity is bastardized Judaism, and Islam is bastardized Christianity. (Not gonna go into Judaism's bastardization because that's just an endless cycle...weird that.)
Bluebird Subscriber
User ID: 730536
United States
11/20/2009 9:30 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

What would Jewish law have to do with Christian concepts? Not binding to them.



Uh...how about the 10 commandments? Or all of Deuteronomy? Leviticus?
Matt. 5:17-19?

I wish you people would realize that Christianity is bastardized Judaism, and Islam is bastardized Christianity. (Not gonna go into Judaism's bastardization because that's just an endless cycle...weird that.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 787323




My religion expressly forbids the commission of abortions in no uncertain terms. That is all I care about and I am not going to be forced to participate in them in any way including financing them.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.
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11/20/2009 9:32 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

What would Jewish law have to do with Christian concepts? Not binding to them.



Uh...how about the 10 commandments? Or all of Deuteronomy? Leviticus?
Matt. 5:17-19?

I wish you people would realize that Christianity is bastardized Judaism, and Islam is bastardized Christianity. (Not gonna go into Judaism's bastardization because that's just an endless cycle...weird that.)




My religion expressly forbids the commission of abortions in no uncertain terms. That is all I care about and I am not going to be forced to participate in them in any way including financing them.
 Quoting: Bluebird



Ok...

How about you read what I said instead?
Anonymous Coward
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11/20/2009 9:50 PM
Re: White House at odds with bishops over abortion--THEY SNEAKED IT BACK IN THE BILL!Quote

O.K. fine, I'll go over what I said, but put in more simple terms so that you can understand it.

-You asked how Judaic law had any effect on your Christian law.

-I then proceeded to explain how it did (by way of biblical examples, including the New Testament)

-Then you, without even reading what I had written, assumed that I was bashing on you for being anti-abortion.

So you see, what this country actually needs, more than anything, is reading comprehension.
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