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Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic
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Neesie 
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11/16/2009 10:32 PM
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I know that he does because the bible says so. that is good enough for me.
Genesis 6: 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
How do you rationalize this mixing of god's sons and man's daughter. Or do you think females are just less then men.
I don't think I understand what i am supposed to rationalize. can you explain further?
It was the whole point of the flood according to the bible you live and breath by. Why else would it hav happened.
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
OP Do you even read this book or just pick som passages that get you by and not think about it som. Quoting: Enlilson
Are you asking me to judge God? The point of this thread is to determine whether gilgamesh or Noah was the original ark story. you think i am supposed to rationalize whether God acted badly against us by creating the flood to destroy us. I wouldnt presume to make that kind of call.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car" |
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danhow
User ID: 817068
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11/16/2009 10:32 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
I take the bible to be literal and that is the way i read it. I don't think things are parables unless the bible says they are. Quoting: Neesie
If you take a little time to do some research on your part you may find different.If not it is ok because it may have been what you have chosen for this lifetime.But try to rember if you learned anything from me is that there is no litteral hell.There is a universal law called Karma where what you put out you will get back but not a litteral hell.Can I prove that?No/You have to find that for yourself if you chose too. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/16/2009 10:34 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
I'm just pointing out that the book of Enoch and other Gnostic text do not agree with the biblical text and is why they are not included as KJV Canon. |
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Neesie
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11/16/2009 10:38 PM
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I take the bible to be literal and that is the way i read it. I don't think things are parables unless the bible says they are.
If you take a little time to do some research on your part you may find different.If not it is ok because it may have been what you have chosen for this lifetime.But try to rember if you learned anything from me is that there is no litteral hell.There is a universal law called Karma where what you put out you will get back but not a litteral hell.Can I prove that?No/You have to find that for yourself if you chose too. Quoting: danhow
I don't believe in hell in the sense that if you are a sinner you will be tossed in hell to burn for all eternity. I believe if you are tossed in this Hell you will be burned and destroyed. there will be nothing left. you will be consumed and die. the bible says the wages of sin is death.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car" |
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danhow
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11/16/2009 10:38 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
I'm just pointing out that the book of Enoch and other Gnostic text do not agree with the biblical text and is why they are not included as KJV Canon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820320
Do you know who the planner of the KJV cannon really was? |
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danhow
User ID: 817068
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11/16/2009 10:39 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
I take the bible to be literal and that is the way i read it. I don't think things are parables unless the bible says they are.
If you take a little time to do some research on your part you may find different.If not it is ok because it may have been what you have chosen for this lifetime.But try to rember if you learned anything from me is that there is no litteral hell.There is a universal law called Karma where what you put out you will get back but not a litteral hell.Can I prove that?No/You have to find that for yourself if you chose too.
I don't believe in hell in the sense that if you are a sinner you will be tossed in hell to burn for all eternity. I believe if you are tossed in this Hell you will be burned and destroyed. there will be nothing left. you will be consumed and die. the bible says the wages of sin is death. Quoting: Neesie
Do you actually believe that a loving God would destroy your soul?Think about it even for a minute. |
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Enlilson
User ID: 808639
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11/16/2009 10:41 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
Genesis 6: 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
How do you rationalize this mixing of god's sons and man's daughter. Or do you think females are just less then men.
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"sons of God" is God's people (before the israelites)
"daughters of men" were the pagans of Cain's line.
When they mixed they were unequally yoked resulting in tyrants in the son's of Gods society. Tyrant are giants.
There were actual tribes of giants too, just as there were large dinos, bugs, bird, plants and the rest, but they were not angle babies.
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Nice try the old Sethites are godly and the Cainites godless.
(Genesis 6:1). Moses wrote, “Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them”
It does not say nor can you find anywhere in the bible a differentiation. Show me where it say the sons of Seth or anything different then the sons of Cain.
You cannot and you have no clue what you are saying becaz you are only repeating what you have been told and what you have been told is to control you and you are just that controled.
It is you who are not a Christian only repeating what some satanist told you. I understand scripture thouroughly. The way it was described is proper understanding of the text.
6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,
6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Has nothing to do with angels.
I have a weblink for further study but since you don't even believe the text is of God what difference does it make. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820320
Where did I say angels. And your understanding is not reflected in any bible known on earth.
Provide a chapter and verse in the bible not some website that say that some men were from Seth and some daughers were from cain.
They both had sons and daughers and then the Sons of G*d came down and took the daugthers of man.
You know that you cant so you attack me. btw I am not a christain why would I want to be associated with such a vengeful and hate filled lot.
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Neesie
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11/16/2009 10:45 PM
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I take the bible to be literal and that is the way i read it. I don't think things are parables unless the bible says they are.
If you take a little time to do some research on your part you may find different.If not it is ok because it may have been what you have chosen for this lifetime.But try to rember if you learned anything from me is that there is no litteral hell.There is a universal law called Karma where what you put out you will get back but not a litteral hell.Can I prove that?No/You have to find that for yourself if you chose too.
I don't believe in hell in the sense that if you are a sinner you will be tossed in hell to burn for all eternity. I believe if you are tossed in this Hell you will be burned and destroyed. there will be nothing left. you will be consumed and die. the bible says the wages of sin is death.
Do you actually believe that a loving God would destroy your soul?Think about it even for a minute. Quoting: danhow
in the beginning god gave us the opportunity to be immortal. but when we humans rebelled and disobeyed god then he took away the tree of life.
Later on he repented for destroying us and letting us die. so he gave us his son as a sacrifice to atone for our sin and find our way back to god.
People are rejecting the light and the message. If man destroys his soul it cannot be blamed on God.
God will not allow evil to live forever and nor should he.
He will lock satan up for 1000 years when he returns so that man can learn to live without the temptations of the devil and see if he can save himself.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car" |
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Enlilson
User ID: 808639
United States
11/16/2009 10:45 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
I know that he does because the bible says so. that is good enough for me.
Genesis 6: 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
How do you rationalize this mixing of god's sons and man's daughter. Or do you think females are just less then men.
I don't think I understand what i am supposed to rationalize. can you explain further?
It was the whole point of the flood according to the bible you live and breath by. Why else would it hav happened.
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
OP Do you even read this book or just pick som passages that get you by and not think about it som.
Are you asking me to judge God? The point of this thread is to determine whether gilgamesh or Noah was the original ark story. you think i am supposed to rationalize whether God acted badly against us by creating the flood to destroy us. I wouldnt presume to make that kind of call. Quoting: Neesie
That was done a long time ago. The newer cannot beget the older unless you are into time travel.
As for why the bible is not silent it tells you why --. The sons of G*d took the daughters of man and it repentesh him.
Do you have another version that has another reason? I want to see it if you do.
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Anonymous Coward
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11/16/2009 10:48 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
I have heard rumors of the horny goat devil playing the lyre in the woods near where I live. I haven't seen him but I know he's real. |
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danhow
User ID: 817068
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11/16/2009 10:50 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
I'm just pointing out that the book of Enoch and other Gnostic text do not agree with the biblical text and is why they are not included as KJV Canon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 820320
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Neesie
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11/16/2009 10:51 PM
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I know that he does because the bible says so. that is good enough for me.
Genesis 6: 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
How do you rationalize this mixing of god's sons and man's daughter. Or do you think females are just less then men.
I don't think I understand what i am supposed to rationalize. can you explain further?
It was the whole point of the flood according to the bible you live and breath by. Why else would it hav happened.
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
OP Do you even read this book or just pick som passages that get you by and not think about it som.
Are you asking me to judge God? The point of this thread is to determine whether gilgamesh or Noah was the original ark story. you think i am supposed to rationalize whether God acted badly against us by creating the flood to destroy us. I wouldnt presume to make that kind of call.
That was done a long time ago. The newer cannot beget the older unless you are into time travel.
As for why the bible is not silent it tells you why --. The sons of G*d took the daughters of man and it repentesh him.
Do you have another version that has another reason? I want to see it if you do. Quoting: Enlilson
did you see me dispute what you say about the reason for the flood? No, I wasnt discussing that. I believe the reason for the flood was the reason that the bible gave.
man had become evil and corrupted.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car" |
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danhow
User ID: 817068
United States
11/16/2009 10:59 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
in the beginning god gave us the opportunity to be immortal. but when we humans rebelled and disobeyed god then he took away the tree of life.
So an all loving God took away the tree of life.
DIdn't hitler take thephysical lives of Jews?So would you classify Hitler as God?After all he did take life away.
Later on he repented for destroying us and letting us die. so he gave us his son as a sacrifice to atone for our sin and find our way back to god.
So in your view why are so many people not finding there way back to this God?
People are rejecting the light and the message. If man destroys his soul it cannot be blamed on God.
Matter cannot be created nor destoyed.It is a proven fact
God will not allow evil to live forever and nor should he.
Have you read the old testiment?What would you classify as evil?
He will lock satan up for 1000 years when he returns so that man can learn to live without the temptations of the devil and see if he can save himself. Quoting: Neesie
I rember when I read that.Now why would he only lock him up for 1000 years and why not destroy the devils soul as God would do to you and me like you said. |
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danhow
User ID: 817068
United States
11/16/2009 11:02 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
did you see me dispute what you say about the reason for the flood? No, I wasnt discussing that. I believe the reason for the flood was the reason that the bible gave.
man had become evil and corrupted. Quoting: Neesie
DO yourself a favor.Google Enlil and Enki and see what you come up with.Just a suggestion. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 755835
Canada
11/16/2009 11:03 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
Ha,ha,ha, a bunch of fawkin cavemen from other planets without paper yet invented came to earth, ha,ha,ha, your fairytales are amusing, please, clown away!
Gilgamesh's god didn't have the know how or understanding of paper to afford to its followers, so they had to write like cavemen (stone) lmao, while the Egyptians in the same timeframe had already invent papyrus (paper). Guess the Egyptian god Horus is a smarter and more powerful God, ha,ha,ha!!!
Stone can't be carbon-14 tested and therefore the orignal tablet(s) could have been re-carved, ha,ha,ha, guess Gilgamesh's god isn't all knowing either.
HORUR = Jesus.... LOL
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Enlilson
User ID: 808639
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11/16/2009 11:03 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
I know that he does because the bible says so. that is good enough for me.
Genesis 6: 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
How do you rationalize this mixing of god's sons and man's daughter. Or do you think females are just less then men.
I don't think I understand what i am supposed to rationalize. can you explain further?
It was the whole point of the flood according to the bible you live and breath by. Why else would it hav happened.
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
OP Do you even read this book or just pick som passages that get you by and not think about it som.
Are you asking me to judge God? The point of this thread is to determine whether gilgamesh or Noah was the original ark story. you think i am supposed to rationalize whether God acted badly against us by creating the flood to destroy us. I wouldnt presume to make that kind of call.
That was done a long time ago. The newer cannot beget the older unless you are into time travel.
As for why the bible is not silent it tells you why --. The sons of G*d took the daughters of man and it repentesh him.
Do you have another version that has another reason? I want to see it if you do.
did you see me dispute what you say about the reason for the flood? No, I wasnt discussing that. I believe the reason for the flood was the reason that the bible gave.
man had become evil and corrupted. Quoting: Neesie
So you believe that there were beings on earth that were not of man that took the daugthers of man for their wives and this angered this same G*d as he did not like his own son's mixing with these humans.
kinda of like decideing that all men are bad and then deciding that a few of them were ok-- kinda willy nilly dontya think.
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danhow
User ID: 817068
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11/16/2009 11:04 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
did you see me dispute what you say about the reason for the flood? No, I wasnt discussing that. I believe the reason for the flood was the reason that the bible gave.
man had become evil and corrupted. Quoting: Neesie
The ancient visitors carried out breeding experiments and produced a creature intelligent enough to have the rules of society imparted to it. These new beings invented agriculture and became the first artists, then created their own warlike civilizations. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by an atomic bomb! The Ark of the Covenant was an electrified transmitter that allowed Moses to communicate with the astronauts! Von Daniken even claims that ancient astronauts - complete with space helmets - were carved on stelae at the Mayan city of Copan!
[link to www.crystalinks.com]
I just did a quick google for you. |
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danhow
User ID: 817068
United States
11/16/2009 11:10 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
The Bible speaks of the Hebrew word 'Elohim', meaning 'God' or 'those who came from the sky'. Genesis Chapter 1:26, states 'And God said, let us make man in our own image, after our likeness'. This quote still uses the plural 'us' rather than the singular 'I', suggesting that God was not a single entity, as many of us have been brought up and conditioned to believe |
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Enlilson
User ID: 808639
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11/16/2009 11:11 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
OP you're a good egg and great sport and I wish you much success in your search for answers.
Last Edited by Enlilson on 11/16/2009 at 11:11 PM
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Neesie
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11/16/2009 11:12 PM
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in the beginning god gave us the opportunity to be immortal. but when we humans rebelled and disobeyed god then he took away the tree of life.
So an all loving God took away the tree of life.
DIdn't hitler take thephysical lives of Jews?So would you classify Hitler as God?After all he did take life away.
Later on he repented for destroying us and letting us die. so he gave us his son as a sacrifice to atone for our sin and find our way back to god.
So in your view why are so many people not finding there way back to this God?
People are rejecting the light and the message. If man destroys his soul it cannot be blamed on God.
Matter cannot be created nor destoyed.It is a proven fact
God will not allow evil to live forever and nor should he.
Have you read the old testiment?What would you classify as evil?
He will lock satan up for 1000 years when he returns so that man can learn to live without the temptations of the devil and see if he can save himself.
I rember when I read that.Now why would he only lock him up for 1000 years and why not destroy the devils soul as God would do to you and me like you said. Quoting: danhow
the angels were created before man. God gave them Immortality. Later on he realized that if an angel became evil they would still be here and he could not destroy them.
doesnt mean that he can't lock them away though.
When he created man, he hoped man would be good too, He created man in his image but man wanted carnal pleasures. God knew it would be a mistake to make man eternal because if he was evil he would still be here. Man must Earn his immortality by being good and deserving of life.
Last Edited by Neesie on 11/16/2009 at 11:13 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 793351
 Australia
11/16/2009 11:13 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
Torah is at best 3,313 years old. The Epic of Gilgamesh is based upon an the historical king of Uruk who was alive in around 2700 B.C.
The Epic is considered the oldest know writing on earth. There is no comparison. Beside the extensive records from this time are museums around the world.
Now you do the math. Quoting: Enlilson
Which language was originaly used for Gilgamesh?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 755835
Canada
11/16/2009 11:13 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
The ancient visitors carried out breeding experiments and produced a creature intelligent enough to have the rules of society imparted to it. These new beings invented agriculture and became the first artists, then created their own warlike civilizations. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed by an atomic bomb! The Ark of the Covenant was an electrified transmitter that allowed Moses to communicate with the astronauts! Von Daniken even claims that ancient astronauts - complete with space helmets - were carved on stelae at the Mayan city of Copan!
[ link to www.crystalinks.com]
I just did a quick google for you.
Ha,ha,ha, hope they left Moses a stone tablet as a user manual because according to you: "They had no use for paper."
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 755835
Canada
11/16/2009 11:15 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
the angels were created before man. God gave them Immortality. Later on he realized that if an angel became evil they would still be here and he could not destroy them. Quoting: Neesie
Can you provide some sort of proof backing this claim, thanks.
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Neesie
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User ID: 819427
United States
11/16/2009 11:16 PM
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Torah is at best 3,313 years old. The Epic of Gilgamesh is based upon an the historical king of Uruk who was alive in around 2700 B.C.
The Epic is considered the oldest know writing on earth. There is no comparison. Beside the extensive records from this time are museums around the world.
Now you do the math.
Which language was originaly used for Gilgamesh?
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How long ago do you believe Noah lived and the flood occured? Thousands of years ago. The torah is several thousand years old. but the flood goes back long long long before the torah was ever written. The story has been handed down through generations until it could be put in written form.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car" |
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Neesie
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User ID: 819427
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11/16/2009 11:18 PM
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the angels were created before man. God gave them Immortality. Later on he realized that if an angel became evil they would still be here and he could not destroy them.
Can you provide some sort of proof backing this claim, thanks.
the serpent (devil) was an angel that was cast out of heaven . He appeared in the garden of eden to tempt eve.
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car" |
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danhow
User ID: 817068
United States
11/16/2009 11:19 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
the angels were created before man. God gave them Immortality. Later on he realized that if an angel became evil they would still be here and he could not destroy them.
So the angels get to live but you don't.Sounds kind of
fishy don't it?
doesnt mean that he can't lock them away though.
I'm sure this god could lock them away just like in the US we have more prisoners then any other country in the world.
So are all those prisoners angels that are locked up?
When he created man, he hoped man would be good too, He created man in his image but man wanted carnal pleasures. God knew it would be a mistake to make man eternal because if he was evil he would still be here. Man must Earn his immortality by being good and deserving of life. Quoting: Neesie
So does this sound like a perfect god to you or a lifeform lower then god? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
United States
11/16/2009 11:20 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
did you see me dispute what you say about the reason for the flood? No, I wasnt discussing that. I believe the reason for the flood was the reason that the bible gave.
man had become evil and corrupted. Quoting: Neesie
very interesting thread.
perhaps man had become evil, corrupted, was in a bad place, the whole planet in a bad place, because the 'wannabe gods' had sort of ran amuck here.
the flood thing though, doesn't seem like was caused by the 'wannabe gods' as they were probably living like kings (it's good to be the king) and didn't want their precious playground ruined.
it feels early humans either didn't know better in either case, and flood seemed like a new beginning, minus overt wannabe gods walking out in the open. just more subtle now through cults.
the flood though, i wonder if a Creator above the wannabes did those humans a favor, but right now does feel like we are still in the same boat. |
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danhow
User ID: 817068
United States
11/16/2009 11:24 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
the angels were created before man. God gave them Immortality. Later on he realized that if an angel became evil they would still be here and he could not destroy them.
Can you provide some sort of proof backing this claim, thanks.
the serpent (devil) was an angel that was cast out of heaven . He appeared in the garden of eden to tempt eve.
We all know what is written in the bible.The question is do you have the courage to question this?
Think about this:
Eve ate an apple and that was why man perishes.
Do you think that litterally happen or do you think there is a symbol of this?
Everytime you eat an apple do you die? |
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Neesie
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User ID: 819427
United States
11/16/2009 11:25 PM
| | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
the angels were created before man. God gave them Immortality. Later on he realized that if an angel became evil they would still be here and he could not destroy them.
So the angels get to live but you don't.Sounds kind of
fishy don't it?
doesnt mean that he can't lock them away though.
I'm sure this god could lock them away just like in the US we have more prisoners then any other country in the world.
So are all those prisoners angels that are locked up?
When he created man, he hoped man would be good too, He created man in his image but man wanted carnal pleasures. God knew it would be a mistake to make man eternal because if he was evil he would still be here. Man must Earn his immortality by being good and deserving of life.
So does this sound like a perfect god to you or a lifeform lower then god? Quoting: danhow
If you wanted to reproduce, as god does, and you create an offspring. and it turned out that your child was a murderer and a rapist would you want him to live? Is this the legacy you would want for yourself. would you call him son and he call you father. or would you destroy him. or lock him away and give it another try with another child?
Last Edited by Neesie on 11/16/2009 at 11:25 PM
"When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car" |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 755835
Canada
11/16/2009 11:26 PM | | Re: Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic | Quote |
the angels were created before man. God gave them Immortality. Later on he realized that if an angel became evil they would still be here and he could not destroy them.
Can you provide some sort of proof backing this claim, thanks.
the serpent (devil) was an angel that was cast out of heaven . He appeared in the garden of eden to tempt eve.
hmmm. From what book and can you post the verse with chapter? Thanks.
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