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!!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!

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Against All Odds
User ID: 779511
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11/12/2009 12:38 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

God does choose to raise up his servants over others from time to time. However, most of those servants practice humility. Point being, even if you are raised above the rest of us spiritually, you are still human.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 816767
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11/12/2009 12:39 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Brothers and sisters in Christ, I don't know at which level you are at in your knowledge of spiritual warfare but I urge you to prepare yourself for the fight of our lives.

I don't claim to know how much time we have, but it's clear looking at the world today that the "dark awakening" as Russ Dizdar calls it is near. When this awakening happens it's going to bring unimaginable pain and suffering to the world and it's going to be up to us to help provide answers and solutions to people's spiritual questions and needs.

I urge you to know full well your authority as a Christian over dark spirits by calling on the name of Jesus Christ and rebuking evil. A great source for information on this is Russ Dizdar's site [link to www.shatterthedarkness.net] If you know of others I'd love to see them.

People in general simply have a feeling that something big is coming, we as Christians know what this is. No matter if you believe in the rapture or not we need to be ready for the spiritual battle of our lives and I can assure you the "other" side is doing it's part to get ready.

Don't let the liars and scoffers divert you from the truth, search the scripture for answers or as God says "Let no man deceive you by any means".
 Quoting: Bugeater

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Wingedlion
User ID: 816724
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11/12/2009 12:42 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

God does choose to raise up his servants over others from time to time. However, most of those servants practice humility. Point being, even if you are raised above the rest of us spiritually, you are still human.
 Quoting: ZTE



I couldn't agree more. But what has the Lord taught you about how to conduct spiritual warfare? I would love to hear what others have learned.
ZTE
User ID: 779511
United States
11/12/2009 12:43 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

God does choose to raise up his servants over others from time to time. However, most of those servants practice humility. Point being, even if you are raised above the rest of us spiritually, you are still human.



I couldn't agree more. But what has the Lord taught you about how to conduct spiritual warfare? I would love to hear what others have learned.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


I'll answer this later, but first am going to go to lunch.
ZTE
User ID: 779511
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11/12/2009 12:44 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

In the meantime, what specifically would you like to know about spiritual warfare?
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Wingedlion
User ID: 816724
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11/12/2009 12:45 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

God does choose to raise up his servants over others from time to time. However, most of those servants practice humility. Point being, even if you are raised above the rest of us spiritually, you are still human.



I couldn't agree more. But what has the Lord taught you about how to conduct spiritual warfare? I would love to hear what others have learned.


I'll answer this later, but first am going to go to lunch.
 Quoting: ZTE 779511



I hope it will be a great discussion, I would like to know how much experience you have actually had in dealing with demons, whether you believe that there is a difference between demons and principalities and powers, and to what extent and how we can prepare ourselves to conduct spiritual warfare.
Bugeater
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11/12/2009 12:48 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

[link to www.gotquestions.org]

Question: "What does the Bible say about spiritual warfare?"

Answer: There are two primary errors when it comes to spiritual warfare—over-emphasis and under-emphasis. Some blame every sin, every conflict, and every problem on demons that need to be cast out. Others completely ignore the spiritual realm and the fact that the Bible tells us our battle is against spiritual powers. The key to successful spiritual warfare is finding the biblical balance. Jesus sometimes cast demons out of people and sometimes healed people with no mention of the demonic. The apostle Paul instructs Christians to wage war against the sin in themselves (Romans 6) and to wage war against the evil one (Ephesians 6:10-18).

Ephesians 6:10-12 declares, “Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” This text teaches some crucial truths: we can only be strong in the Lord’s power, it is God’s armor that protects us, and our battle is against spiritual forces of evil in the world.

A powerful example of someone strong in the Lord’s power is Michael, the archangel, in Jude 9. Michael, likely the most powerful of all of God’s angels, did not rebuke Satan in his own power, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” Revelation 12:7-8 records that in the end times Michael will defeat Satan. Still, when it came to his conflict with Satan, Michael rebuked Satan in God’s name and authority, not his own. It is only through our relationship with Jesus Christ that Christians have any authority over Satan and his demons. It is only in His Name that our rebuke has any power.

Ephesians 6:13-18 gives a description of the spiritual armor God gives us. We are to stand firm with the belt of truth, the breastplate of righteousness, the gospel of peace, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation, the sword of the Spirit, and by praying in the Spirit. What do these pieces of spiritual armor represent in spiritual warfare? We are to speak the truth against Satan’s lies. We are to rest in the fact that we are declared righteous because of Christ’s sacrifice for us. We are to proclaim the gospel no matter how much resistance we receive. We are not to waver in our faith, no matter how strongly we are attacked. Our ultimate defense is the assurance we have of our salvation, an assurance that no spiritual force can take away. Our offensive weapon is the Word of God, not our own opinions and feelings. We are to follow Jesus’ example in recognizing that some spiritual victories are only possible through prayer.

Jesus is our ultimate example for spiritual warfare. Observe how Jesus handled direct attacks from Satan when He was tempted by him in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1-11). Each temptation was answered the same way—with the words “It is written.” Jesus knew the Word of the living God is the most powerful weapon against the temptations of the devil. If Jesus Himself used the Word to counter the devil, do we dare to use anything less?

The ultimate example of how not to engage in spiritual warfare is the seven sons of Sceva. “Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, ‘In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.’ Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day the evil spirit answered them, ‘Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?’ Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding” (Acts 19:13-16). The seven sons of Sceva were using Jesus’ name. That is not enough. The seven sons of Sceva did not have a relationship with Jesus; therefore, their words were void of any power or authority. The seven sons of Sceva were relying on a methodology. They were not relying on Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and they were not employing the Word of God in their spiritual warfare. As a result, they received a humiliating beating. May we learn from their bad example and conduct spiritual warfare as the Bible instructs.

In summary, what are the keys to success in spiritual warfare? First, we rely on God’s power, not our own. Second, we rebuke in Jesus’ Name, not our own. Third, we protect ourselves with the full armor of God. Fourth, we wage warfare with the sword of the Spirit—the Word of God. Finally, we remember that while we wage spiritual warfare against Satan and his demons, not every sin or problem is a demon that needs to be rebuked.
TwinSister
User ID: 683425
United States
11/12/2009 12:51 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

God does choose to raise up his servants over others from time to time. However, most of those servants practice humility. Point being, even if you are raised above the rest of us spiritually, you are still human.



I couldn't agree more. But what has the Lord taught you about how to conduct spiritual warfare? I would love to hear what others have learned.
 Quoting: Wingedlion

My position and the words!

Last Edited by TwinSister on 11/12/2009 at 12:51 PM
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TwinSister
User ID: 683425
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11/12/2009 12:52 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

God does choose to raise up his servants over others from time to time. However, most of those servants practice humility. Point being, even if you are raised above the rest of us spiritually, you are still human.



I couldn't agree more. But what has the Lord taught you about how to conduct spiritual warfare? I would love to hear what others have learned.


I'll answer this later, but first am going to go to lunch.



I hope it will be a great discussion, I would like to know how much experience you have actually had in dealing with demons, whether you believe that there is a difference between demons and principalities and powers, and to what extent and how we can prepare ourselves to conduct spiritual warfare.
 Quoting: Wingedlion

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ThreshingSword
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11/12/2009 12:59 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

I for one will not submit or bow to you, you are a proud and selfexalting person. You must stop debasing the bretheren YOU ARE OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLATATINS and Jesus tells us not to tolerate you ....so please leave our discussion, you are not welcome! If you write me I will not answer, if you swear at me I will not answer, if you speak evil of me I will pray for you. Dip your robe in the Blood of the Lamb, the time for arrogance is rapidly coming to an end my friend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816640


You know, this really saddens me. First, you're touching the Lord's anointed and you don't even know it, yet you profess to be of Him. The salt truly has lost its savor. I met Wingedlion almost two years ago on this site, and I could discern in my Spirit instantly that He was a man after God's own heart and someone extremely, EXTREMELY special. God is no respecter of persons, that is correct, but God also says that He looks upon the Earth to find someone whom He can show HImself strong on behalf of.

Now, Wingedlion is also extremely humble, and you don't know him personally like I do, but then again, that is where spiritual discernment comes into play and having a check in your Spirit before you go mouthing off to someone who you mistakenly identify as being arrogant, when in fact it is rather confidence and spiritual authority and not arrogance in Wingedlion. Also, as he has said many, many times on GLP, his job here is to entice those of Satan to battle so they can be destroyed.

He has suffered much persecution and given up more than you can ever imagine to be a servant of the Most High God, and for this sacrifice and persecution, what does he get? More persecution from those who claim to be of Christ! It's unbelievable! It makes me sick.
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!

ThreshingSword@live.com
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 311438
Canada
11/12/2009 1:03 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

The Philistine army had gathered for war against Israel.
The two armies faced each other, camped for battle on
opposite sides of a steep valley. A Philistine giant
measuring over nine feet tall and wearing full armor came
out each day for forty days, mocking and challenging the
Israelites to fight. His name was Goliath. Saul, the King
of Israel, and the whole army were terrified of Goliath.

One day David, the youngest son of Jesse, was sent to the
battle lines by his father to bring back news of his
brothers. David was probably just a young teenager at the
time. While there, David heard Goliath shouting his daily
defiance and he saw the great fear stirred within the men
of Israel. David responded,

"Who is this uncircumcised Philistine that he should defy
the armies of God?"

So David volunteered to fight Goliath. It took some
persuasion, but King Saul finally agreed to let David fight
against the giant. Dressed in his simple tunic, carrying
his shepherd's staff, slingshot and a pouch full of stones,
David approached Goliath. The giant cursed at him, hurling
threats and insults.

David said to the Philistine,

"You come against me with sword and spear and javelin, but
I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty, the
God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied ... today
I will give the carcasses of the Philistine army to the
birds of the air ... and the whole world will know that
there is a God in Israel ... it is not by sword or spear
that the Lord saves; for the battle is the Lord's, and he
will give all of you into our hands."

As Goliath moved in for the kill, David reached into his
bag and slung one of his stones at Goliath's head. Finding
a hole in the armor, the stone sank into the giant's
forehead and he fell face down on the ground. David then
took Goliath's sword, killed him and then cut off his head.


"I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty"

"for the battle is the Lord's"

God Bless His called, chosen and faithful.

God Bless His Word.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 683116
United States
11/12/2009 1:29 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Wingedlion, I fear that you will be like the Apostle who thrice denied Jesus and slink off into the crowd when the time to choose to live or die comes, and you will think you are choosing living but are really chosing death.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380667
United States
11/12/2009 1:38 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Sometimes I feel very alone in this world...apparently only nut cases practice faith these days!!! Greatful to be a nut case then. For some unknown reason I've been hermitizing myself lately. Maybe it's a protection mechanism against evil...or a need to get my stuff together in preparation. I've also begun praying for something I've never felt the need to pray for lately...and that's for justice. Not this crazy world's kind of justice that is judgmental and cruel...but God's devine justice.

I've felt the very same way lately, very at peace with letting people believe what they want to believe instead of worried about people. Maybe we feel 'alone' because God has us seperated from this world. From one nut case to another, stand strong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493498


This is exactly how I have been feeling too. I want an
end to all of this evil and deception.
ThreshingSword
User ID: 762510
United States
11/12/2009 1:39 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

I don't think a lot of people can handle spiritual warfare, honestly. When I first got saved, God opened my eyes to the realm & allowed me to see demons in people. Demonic attacks at night, SEVERE, for 3 years. I had a lady tell me 'When you learn who you are in Christ, they will leave you alone'. That was about 7 years ago, I know who I am in Christ - they have left me alone...and they better watch out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 493498


Your first sentence is so true! However, the more you are a threat to Satan's kingdom, the more you will get attacked. Yes, it's true that you can defeat them every single time in Jesus' name, but that doesn't mean the attacks will stop. Mongoose, another poster on GLP, says he suffered a stroke one December on an occult day from curses sent his way because of the spiritual warfare he does. God knows whatever else he's had to endure, since he doesn't post much on GLP.

Wingedlion has said that he spent the whole month of October in the hospital and nursing home healing from wounds inflicted in a large spiritual warfare battle the first of October. They've also kidnapped him, abused his only son, have snuck into his house countless times, poisoned his food, electronically harassed him, crippled his left leg, given him several strokes, all going on now for 13 years.

This is serious business. Satan and his army play to win, and they will stop at nothing to defeat anyone who gets in their way. For most Christians, this kind of persecution is too much for them. Are they willing to give up their comfortable life in exchange for persecution for Jesus, just as all the apostles had to undergo?
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!

ThreshingSword@live.com
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800935
Germany
11/12/2009 1:45 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

But remember, Christians don't "fight" except in self defense, as a last resort. Furthermore, respect and adhere to the laws of the powers that be - until they come into conflict with the laws of the almighty God.

Thanks to the Bible, we knew of the coming New World Order long before anyone else. We know the signs, and we also know that the Final Order of Man, the eighth an final empire of this world, will be destroyed shortly after its establishment by the heavenly hosts who have been called from all four corners of the universe, with the Lord and Christ at the helm.

Keep preaching the Word and giving those hope who have lost - and will lose - all hope.

Adhere to the Lord and the Word of God and you will triumph, even if you should fall asleep.

See! The Lord is coming quickly. He will not be late.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 800935
Germany
11/12/2009 1:47 PM
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And those of you who think to stand firm in the Word - see to it that you do not fall.

Satan and his companions - the physical and the metaphysical - have a few damned good tricks up their sleeves.

Even the strongest of us will surely falter.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380667
United States
11/12/2009 1:47 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

I for one will not submit or bow to you, you are a proud and selfexalting person. You must stop debasing the bretheren YOU ARE OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLATATINS and Jesus tells us not to tolerate you ....so please leave our discussion, you are not welcome! If you write me I will not answer, if you swear at me I will not answer, if you speak evil of me I will pray for you. Dip your robe in the Blood of the Lamb, the time for arrogance is rapidly coming to an end my friend.


You know, this really saddens me. First, you're touching the Lord's anointed and you don't even know it, yet you profess to be of Him. The salt truly has lost its savor. I met Wingedlion almost two years ago on this site, and I could discern in my Spirit instantly that He was a man after God's own heart and someone extremely, EXTREMELY special. God is no respecter of persons, that is correct, but God also says that He looks upon the Earth to find someone whom He can show HImself strong on behalf of.

Now, Wingedlion is also extremely humble, and you don't know him personally like I do, but then again, that is where spiritual discernment comes into play and having a check in your Spirit before you go mouthing off to someone who you mistakenly identify as being arrogant, when in fact it is rather confidence and spiritual authority and not arrogance in Wingedlion. Also, as he has said many, many times on GLP, his job here is to entice those of Satan to battle so they can be destroyed.

He has suffered much persecution and given up more than you can ever imagine to be a servant of the Most High God, and for this sacrifice and persecution, what does he get? More persecution from those who claim to be of Christ! It's unbelievable! It makes me sick.
 Quoting: ThreshingSword


Threshing, I do not know you or Wingedlion, but I concur with you that many mistake confidence in the Lord and the sword of truth with arrogance. That would be wrong. The speaking with authority comes from the Holy Spirit. Most christians cannot discern it.
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Wingedlion
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11/12/2009 1:48 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Wingedlion, I fear that you will be like the Apostle who thrice denied Jesus and slink off into the crowd when the time to choose to live or die comes, and you will think you are choosing living but are really chosing death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 683116



Well thank the Lord that you are free to think and believe what you want to, but in the end, it will be proven to be a false assumption.

God does not reward false assumptions, nor does he cater to those who believe that they are spiritual guides when you have never as much as been a guide or a teacher yourself. Why would God choose one who has paid so little to be where you are today?

God chooses those who have been tried in the fires of affliction, better have some credentials if you want to challenge me, the Lord is my defense, and He it is who will silence those whose toungue move against His annointed.

Go ahead, blab away. Jesus had to deal with it, His disciples had to deal with it, King David had to deal with it, Moses had to deal with it, as a matter of fact, anyone who makes a stand will have to deal with it. It shows us your true colors, doesn't it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 683116
United States
11/12/2009 1:53 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

Wingedlion = Nutcase
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 816640
United States
11/12/2009 1:54 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

I for one will not submit or bow to you, you are a proud and selfexalting person. You must stop debasing the bretheren YOU ARE OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLATATINS and Jesus tells us not to tolerate you ....so please leave our discussion, you are not welcome! If you write me I will not answer, if you swear at me I will not answer, if you speak evil of me I will pray for you. Dip your robe in the Blood of the Lamb, the time for arrogance is rapidly coming to an end my friend.


You know, this really saddens me. First, you're touching the Lord's anointed and you don't even know it, yet you profess to be of Him. The salt truly has lost its savor. I met Wingedlion almost two years ago on this site, and I could discern in my Spirit instantly that He was a man after God's own heart and someone extremely, EXTREMELY special. God is no respecter of persons, that is correct, but God also says that He looks upon the Earth to find someone whom He can show HImself strong on behalf of.

Now, Wingedlion is also extremely humble, and you don't know him personally like I do, but then again, that is where spiritual discernment comes into play and having a check in your Spirit before you go mouthing off to someone who you mistakenly identify as being arrogant, when in fact it is rather confidence and spiritual authority and not arrogance in Wingedlion. Also, as he has said many, many times on GLP, his job here is to entice those of Satan to battle so they can be destroyed.

He has suffered much persecution and given up more than you can ever imagine to be a servant of the Most High God, and for this sacrifice and persecution, what does he get? More persecution from those who claim to be of Christ! It's unbelievable! It makes me sick.


Threshing, I do not know you or Wingedlion, but I concur with you that many mistake confidence in the Lord and the sword of truth with arrogance. That would be wrong. The speaking with authority comes from the Holy Spirit. Most christians cannot discern it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380667

If any of you try to usurp the authority of Jesus Christ and set yourselves above another believer you are deceived. You have this man speak boastful things exalting himself and you jump in his boat and try to make the rest of us feel guilty? That is not the Holy Spirit, you are either in the same deluded cult or you are all deceived by this boastful man. This thread has very much been given to an unclean spirit and I say good bye.
Bugeater
User ID: 816698
United States
11/12/2009 1:57 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

I pray for everyone who's searching for truth, I pray you find it, recognize it and accept it.
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Against All Odds
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11/12/2009 1:59 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

I hope it will be a great discussion, I would like to know how much experience you have actually had in dealing with demons, whether you believe that there is a difference between demons and principalities and powers, and to what extent and how we can prepare ourselves to conduct spiritual warfare.
 Quoting: Wingedlion


Since there is so much to discuss on this subject. It's best to ask specific questions. But first, I'll tell a little about myself.

I love investigating paranormal activities. In October I work at a haunted house, but many times during the year a group of us that work there will go on "ghost hunts" for fun. Also, I have come into contact with many oracles/seers who needed my help/advice.

More specifically, my strong point is logic and strategy. I played chess until real time strategy games came out for the computer. Then I mastered them. I've studied war tactics more extensively than many generals, and I could run circles around Sun Tzu Bing Fa. On top of that, I learned swordfighting (fencing among other), and I've won many sharpshooting tournaments. So I am well prepared when it comes to physical warfare.

That said, the same basic principles apply to spiritual warfare as they do to physical warfare.

"whether you believe that there is a difference between demons and principalities and powers" - Wingdelon

Before you fight an enemy, you must know who it is you are fighting.

But to answer this question, there is a difference. "Demons" as we call them are not fallen angels. They are the souls of the nephilim that were killed in the flood. The word for "evil spirits" Jesus cast out of people in the New Testament is the same (or very similar) to the word "nephilim" in Genesis.

That means that fallen angels are much more powerful than many people originally think, as they deceive several nations at a time, instead of individuals. Their names and locations have changed, but their symbols have remained the same.

For example:

Israel - ruled by Moloch. (Google star of Moloch)

Islam - Baal (Al 'Ahbaal [or something like that]) god of the moon. Go look at every Islamic flag, and tell me what symbol you see.

Catholicism (Rome) - Asherah.
The priests of Asherah wore red robes, worshipped the goddess Asherah, and gave her fertility sacrifices by performing sodomy with the priests' servants.

There are followers of the one true God in all these religions, but the institutes themselves are set-up in a way to distract those people from worshiping God. (Statues of Mary [Asherah], money, additional rules and regulations.)

These are 3 of the 7 main principalities.

And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. He had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on his horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

The other 4 principalities are very hard to determine, because they the heads of polytheistic religions.

Ra - god of the sun (United States and Britain). Look at all the sun (and Egyptian) symbology on our money, flags and other national items.

Once you figure out who you are fighting, you must find out how they operate, what their purpose is, and their weak points.

Finally, there are different hierarchies of angelic beings, meaning there must be different hierarchies of fallen angels. The ones I've listed are of the highest.

Last Edited by ZTE on 11/12/2009 at 2:04 PM
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11/12/2009 1:59 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

"This is serious business. Satan and his army play to win, and they will stop at nothing to defeat anyone who gets in their way."

All that Christians need to do is join together to set up the New Jerusalem [link to www.alphaomeganewjerusalem.com] Satan's system is terminated.
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11/12/2009 2:04 PM
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hummbird Hi OP, your right, trouble like we never knew trouble is about to hit us. HERE HE COMES!...

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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.

STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobacco is worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
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11/12/2009 2:07 PM
Re: !!!!!!!!!!Christians Please Enter!!!!!!!!!!Quote

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Question: "What does the Bible say about spiritual warfare?"

Answer: There are two primary errors when it comes to spiritual warfare—over-emphasis and under-emphasis. Some blame every sin, every conflict, and every problem on demons that need to be cast out. Others completely ignore the spiritual realm and the fact that the Bible tells us our battle is against spiritual powers. The key to successful spiritual warfare is finding the biblical balance. Jesus sometimes cast demons out of people and sometimes healed people with no mention of the demonic. The apostle Paul instructs Christians to wage war against the sin in themselves (Romans 6) and to wage war against the evil one (Ephesians 6:10-18).

Ephesians 6:10-12 declares, “Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” This text teaches some crucial truths: we can only be strong in the Lord’s power, it is God’s armor that protects us, and our battle is against spiritual forces of evil in the world.

A powerful example of someone strong in the Lord’s power is Michael, the archangel, in Jude 9. Michael, likely the most powerful of all of God’s angels, did not rebuke Satan in his own power, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” Revelation 12:7-8 records that in the end times Michael will defeat Satan. Still, when it came to his conflict with Satan, Michael rebuked Satan in God’s name and authority, not his own. It is only through our relationship with Jesus Christ that Christians have any authority over Satan and his demons. It is only in His Name that our rebuke has any power.

Ephesians 6:13-18 gives a description of the spiritual armor God gives us. We are to stand firm with the belt of truth, the breastplate of righteousness, the gospel of peace, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation, the sword of the Spirit, and by praying in the Spirit. What do these pieces of spiritual armor represent in spiritual warfare? We are to speak the truth against Satan’s lies. We are to rest in the fact that we are declared righteous because of Christ’s sacrifice for us. We are to proclaim the gospel no matter how much resistance we receive. We are not to waver in our faith, no matter how strongly we are attacked. Our ultimate defense is the assurance we have of our salvation, an assurance that no spiritual force can take away. Our offensive weapon is the Word of God, not our own opinions and feelings. We are to follow Jesus’ example in recognizing that some spiritual victories are only possible through prayer.

Jesus is our ultimate example for spiritual warfare. Observe how Jesus handled direct attacks from Satan when He was tempted by him in the wilderness (Matthew 4:1-11). Each temptation was answered the same way—with the words “It is written.” Jesus knew the Word of the living God is the most powerful weapon against the temptations of the devil. If Jesus Himself used the Word to counter the devil, do we dare to use anything less?

The ultimate example of how not to engage in spiritual warfare is the seven sons of Sceva. “Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, ‘In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out.’ Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. One day the evil spirit answered them, ‘Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?’ Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding” (Acts 19:13-16). The seven sons of Sceva were using Jesus’ name. That is not enough. The seven sons of Sceva did not have a relationship with Jesus; therefore, their words were void of any power or authority. The seven sons of Sceva were relying on a methodology. They were not relying on Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and they were not employing the Word of God in their spiritual warfare. As a result, they received a humiliating beating. May we learn from their bad example and conduct spiritual warfare as the Bible instructs.

In summary, what are the keys to success in spiritual warfare? First, we rely on God’s power, not our own. Second, we rebuke in Jesus’ Name, not our own. Third, we protect ourselves with the full armor of God. Fourth, we wage warfare with the sword of the Spirit—the Word of God. Finally, we remember that while we wage spiritual warfare against Satan and his demons, not every sin or problem is a demon that needs to be rebuked.
 Quoting: Bugeater



Oh BTW, good stuff!
czygyny Subscriber
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11/12/2009 2:08 PM
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I pray for everyone who's searching for truth, I pray you find it, recognize it and accept it.
 Quoting: Bugeater



That should be EVERY believer's earnest prayer, that they are led to only His Truth and to only hear His Voice.

So many are unable to hear His Voice because so many deceivers are out there hawking their own brand of apostasy, having carefully crafted 'voices' that sound an awful lot like Him, but their seductive words are like delectible tidbits that taste good going down but in their center is a barbed treble hook that only reveals itself once it has been taken down into the heart of the hearer. It takes a lot of work to root them out after they've been set.

All I know is the more I pray for discernment, the more the counterfeits' words sound like gibberish, and the clarion call of Messiah sounds the clearer still.
ZTE Subscriber
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11/12/2009 2:20 PM
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Enoch 6:

And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.


the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening 5 in the desert, which is in Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may 6,7 not see light.


...And the whole earth has been corrupted 9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe all sin.'


Azazel wasn't mentioned in the list above, yet he must have done something very very bad. So this goes to show, that the hierarchy of fallen angels is not as strict as the hierarchy of the Lord's angels. They all pledged to Satan, but after that they compete to be worshiped. Thus, we have wars.

And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves 12 with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is 13 for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire: and 14 to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever.

Although this bunch of fallen have been dealt with, there are others, but we don't have a nice little list of names like Enoch provided.
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11/12/2009 2:25 PM
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ZTE, I would agree with most of the things that you have said, although my experience with those of the highest orders of Satan's Kingdom have changed my understanding quite a bit. For instance:

Satan wants to be "just like the Most High" so for everything in God's Kingdom, there is a "mirror image" counterfeit. Satan himself takes on the persona of God the Father, Yet, there is a principality that is called "The son of perdition" that is the very spirit of Anti-Christ, and is passed down from generation to generation to the elite. All want to posses this spirit for it has great powers that they lust after. But this is the imitation of Jesus.

Eventually, the actual "man of sin" will take this principality and it will possess him just as it did Judas, and as it has possessed many through out the world in many various generations.

Then, the Beast, which is also a principality to imitate the Holy Spirit. This is the spirit that is in charge of every false religion and also in charge of spiritual counterfeits. It manifests itself as a red, seven headed dragon to the Generational Satanist who worship it as their "wind god".

Finally, the Woman who rides the Beast, the Queen herself, Hephzibah, the Great whore. But the great whore is also a principality spirit that is inherited and passed down through generations to the high queen over all the Illuminati, or as the Bible calls then:"The rulers of the darkness of this world."(Eph.6:12)

These four main principalities make up the imitation "Kingdom of God", Satan's Kingdom, also known as "Mystery Babylon the Great".

Last Edited by Wingedlion on 11/12/2009 at 2:31 PM
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11/12/2009 2:28 PM
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If any of you try to usurp the authority of Jesus Christ and set yourselves above another believer you are deceived. You have this man speak boastful things exalting himself and you jump in his boat and try to make the rest of us feel guilty? That is not the Holy Spirit, you are either in the same deluded cult or you are all deceived by this boastful man. This thread has very much been given to an unclean spirit and I say good bye.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 816640


Wingedlion tried to "usurp the authority of Jesus Christ"??? For the life of me, I don't know where you came up with that wild, crazy idea.

Any thread about spiritual warfare is going to try to be derailed by the enemy, EVERY single time. In fact, if you even try to speak about spiritual warfare among friends or even sometimes family, who are Christians, the enemy will even try to derail that discussion. Hmmm... I wonder why...
Genesis 3:15: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The Nephilim control the world now, but not for long!

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11/12/2009 2:33 PM
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you both forgot semjaza.
but it would be imagined that would be on purpose.
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