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| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 6:34 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
serious answer NO
we are in the New World Order |
| Sugarelf
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11/7/2009 6:40 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
Glory to the Lamb who was slain, I am so thankful nothing can snatch me out from the palm of His hand. He and the Father of Lights have got it all under control. Look up Jesus said, I think if you look down you will not make it, do not, do not, do not love this world, it is passing away very soon. Keep your eyes on the prize and you will not be deceived! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812949
11:11 |
| Aquarius 7 
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11/7/2009 6:41 PM
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Just at the door Aquarius, just at the door. Quoting: GONG
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Hello, Gong 
I see you are posting from Italy. (Gotta love glp!)
Have you heard anything about this latest Fatima vision?
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“Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee: because he trusts in Thee.” ~ Isaiah 26:3 |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 6:42 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
Just at the door Aquarius, just at the door.
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Hello, Gong :aq hi 02:
I see you are posting from Italy. (Gotta love glp!)
Have you heard anything about this latest Fatima vision?
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| Aquarius 7
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11/7/2009 6:45 PM
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PS: If your theory is correct, then the Tribulation would end in December of 2011.
Not that far off!
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For the non-Christian that might be correct. Once you know what December 2012 is all about, then the pieces of the Tribulation puzzle start fitting in place. Before I post further, I'll give you some questions to prime your thoughts.
Which civilizations have a 2012 prophecy? Are these Christian/Judeo civilizations or polytheistic civilizations?
Do these prophecies really say the world will end? Or, do they believe that the world will come together? (A oneness)
Since many of the symbols of the 2012 civilizations are pyramids, do you know what the symbolism of a pyramid means? Quoting: ZTE
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Waiting patiently for more, ZTE!
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“Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee: because he trusts in Thee.” ~ Isaiah 26:3 |
| Aquarius 7
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11/7/2009 6:48 PM
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Glory to the Lamb who was slain, /.../ do not, do not, do not love this world, it is passing away very soon. Keep your eyes on the prize and you will not be deceived! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812949
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“Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee: because he trusts in Thee.” ~ Isaiah 26:3 |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 7:06 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
Tribulation is 2 days of 1000 years with the last being cut short.
Here is what John said about it and that was around 2000 years ago.
Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation..
Mat 24 Tribulation of those (2) days and the end of it foretold. What are the signs told?
2 main ones left:
1) Man of perdition to be revealed.
2) Sun/moon to not give light, stars falling from the heavens, heavens shaken, the Messiah as the Vengeance to be seen coming in the clouds of the heavens. For those not in darkness to know that season of the Yom Teruah of that gathering trumpet blast.
We are coming up to the sixth seal. Rev 6/Mat 24/Luk 21, many other references to that Sign of #2 above. |
| Aquarius 7
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11/7/2009 7:22 PM
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//... Stigma and charagma both support the idea of a syringe injectable microchip like the Verichip. Stigma has also made it into the English language where it's defined as "a mark of infamy or disgrace," there's an obvious carryover from its use in Revelation.
Finally, look closely at the fang of a snake, and the tip of the needle. Other than the color, they look just like each other.
Taken from [ link to www.ridingthebeast.com]
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| Sugarelf
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11/7/2009 7:33 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
Notice how the snake's fangs make a nice number 11 !!
EL-EVEN !!
AQUARIOUS !!
11:11 |
| GONG
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11/7/2009 7:34 PM
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Just at the door Aquarius, just at the door.
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Hello, Gong
I see you are posting from Italy. ( Gotta love glp!)
Have you heard anything about this latest Fatima vision?
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No Aquarius I have not, what I said is just my own perception based on many different things and event that come one after another.
I am waiting to see how this whole FLU situation evolve to understand better the time we are on related to the prophecies.
Surely we live in interesting times..
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| ZTE
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11/7/2009 8:19 PM
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For the non-Christian that might be correct. Once you know what December 2012 is all about, then the pieces of the Tribulation puzzle start fitting in place. Before I post further, I'll give you some questions to prime your thoughts.
Which civilizations have a 2012 prophecy? Are these Christian/Judeo civilizations or polytheistic civilizations?
Do these prophecies really say the world will end? Or, do they believe that the world will come together? (A oneness)
Since many of the symbols of the 2012 civilizations are pyramids, do you know what the symbolism of a pyramid means?
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Waiting patiently for more, ZTE!
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* Went to go eat dinner *
For starters, the Bible was written by Israel for Israel. This may not seem important; however, when it comes to prophecy, then the prophecies are given a spin on how it effects the nation of Israel (This is not just the current nation of Israel, since they only acknowledge the tribe of Judah)
Now, other prophecies (Mayan, Egyptian, Sumerian) were not written by Judeo/Christian men, thus how they effect their own nation is different than Biblical prophecies.
So, in Biblical prophecy, we have a time of tribulation (persecution against God's faithful as well as punishment toward the unfaithful). One of the main ideas in the Biblical prophecy is the notion of an anti-Christ. A person (or fallen angel or alien) coming to Earth and proclaiming himself to be the Messiah (Jesus). He will be backed by both the government and the religion of the time.
Now, let's move over to the other prophecies. The Mayan long count calendar DOES NOT signify the end of the world. The calender begins at the BEGINNING of creation and has predicted humanities' achievements, but it doesn't mean the world will end.
The mayan pyramids (as well as Egyptian) were built with multiple purposes. One of those purposes was to be a physical representation of their calendar. So, we have the creation (or evolution [pick your poison]) of life at the bottom layer of the pyramid, and we have the fully-evolved man at the top of the pyramid. (All-seeing eye at the top of the pyramid is like the "third" eye).
Now the Mayan long-count marks the achievements of humanity. At the beginning, we started off scattered with no technology. It took us a long time to learn technology, but as we advanced the steps of the pyramid, our technology became more advanced, and civilizations became more and more united. Persia, Greece, Rome - each of those civilizations expanded on each other and took over more of the world.
So, according to most Mayan's today and from long ago, they believed that the top level of the pyramid (December 2012) will be the time in humanity where we will achieve a "oneness." One-world government, one religion... Other prophecies such as Egyptian and Sumerian say the same thing, and add that it will be a time of a great leader (Messiah) and peace.
Now here's where we connect the dots. We have 2 OPPOSING prophecies, saying different things, but occurring at the same time. However, each prophecy was written for its own people. So, for Mayans (mostly polythiestic people) it will be a time when the gods return to Earth for a time of peace.
For Christians it will be a time when gods proclaim themselves to be the Messiah and persecute Christians (because they won't accept them).
More on pyramids and prophecy next post...
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| Texas Uncensored
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11/7/2009 8:26 PM
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Are we in the Tribulation now?
If so, when did it start?
If not, please explain your stance.
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Hi Aquaruis 7. I think we are in the Tribulation period. While not a biblical scholar, it seems to me that it became exceedingly clear that the Trib had begun when the 9+ eq and tsunami hit Indonesia a few years ago.
After that, many things matching biblical descriptions have been occurring with greater frequency, now many events happening simutaneously.
The question is "are these events happening on their own, or are they being caused by TPTB to freak us out?"
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 8:31 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
God isn't going to put us through his wrath. (trust me, we will probably think that we will be going through his wrath, but we won't) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 812912
totally agree, Christians will be here for some rough times. I think a lot will loose their faith. I pray we all remain strong, and remember that God has already warned us of tough times ahead! |
| TXGal4Truth
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11/7/2009 8:31 PM
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Are we in the Tribulation now?
If so, when did it start?
If not, please explain your stance.
:
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Hi Aquaruis 7. I think we are in the Tribulation period. While not a biblical scholar, it seemsto me that it became exceedingly clear to me that the Trib had begun when the 9+ eq and tsunami hit Indonesia a few years ago.
After that, many things matching biblical descriptions have been occurring with greater frequency, now many events happening simutaneously.
The question is "are these events happening on their own, or are they being caused by TPTB to freak us out?"
Hi Tex. Well the Bible never really said who or what would cause these things to happen, just that they would. Regardless, they are happening just as the prophets said they would.
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 8:31 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
Here is some interesting info at this site:
[link to www.courlisius.org] |
| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 8:31 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
Are we in the Tribulation now?
If so, when did it start?
If not, please explain your stance.
: :aq fish:
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The question is "are these events happening on their own, or are they being caused by TPTB to freak us out?"
:dominoe1: Quoting: Texas Uncensored
yes this is indeed a possibility... |
| GraftedPromise
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11/7/2009 8:49 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
Are we in the Tribulation now?
Yes ... and have been in the "great tribulation" of Revelation since Yeshua returned to The Father.
If so, when did it start?
If not, please explain your stance.
: :aq fish:
. . Quoting: Aquarius 7
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... either Seal 5 or Seal 6 is next ...
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... I'm thinking Seal 5 are all the martyrs of the last almost 2000 years ...
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... so my belief is that a "space event" is the next thing on the time line ...
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| cosmic yo yo
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11/7/2009 8:53 PM
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Hi Aquarius 
I found a COOL link to help us understand :)
[link to www.neverthirsty.org]
Bible Question:Does the mark of the beast come before or after the rapture?
Bible Answer: The next major event in human history, from God's perspective, is the preaching of the gospel throughout the entire world (Matt. 24:14), and then comes the rapture. We are awaiting the spread of the gospel throughout the entire world. When the rapture occurs all the Christians will be removed from the earth. The illustration below provides an overview of the order of future events. The rapture comes first (saints are removed) followed by seven years of tribulation (a period of suffering), the kingdom (1,000 year period), and then an eternal life in heaven or hell.
The mark of the beast occurs during the tribulation period. In the Tribulation, two very powerful individuals come to power. Both are empowered by Satan. The first one is a political leader (2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev. 13;1-10) who is called the Antichrist. He is the leader of the a future world government. The second beast is called the false prophet (Rev. 13:11-18; 19:20-21). He is a religious leader. This is the one who forces people to receive the mark "666" in order to buy or sell (Rev. 13:16-17). Who are these individuals? Who will be these beasts? The world will not know for sure until it happens at the middle of the tribulation period. But when he does appear he can be identified as the one . . .
. . . who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. (NASB) 2 Thessalonians 2:4
Conclusion:The rapture comes first at the beginning of the Tribulation and the mark of the beast, "666," occurs after the rapture and sometime after the middle of the tribulation. Christians will not be present during the tribulation period but many will be saved as they search to understand what has happened. We can only assume that they will listen to past recorded sermons, read books about Jesus, and watch recorded videos. Many will have their sins forgiven as they believe in Jesus and depend on Him. Many will also die as a result of disbelief. Now is the time to believe in Jesus and let him take over our life.
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Prophecy of The Future
Symptoms of a Problem
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| ZTE
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11/7/2009 8:56 PM
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Pyramids Part Two
Now pyramids were built for multiple reasons. To bury royalty and to preserve knowledge. That knowledge includes physical objects, as well as intellectual and spiritual knowledge. Thus, the outside shape of the pyramid served multiple purposes. 1. For a countdown timer, For astronomy (astrology) purposes and to represent their form of government.
In Egypt, their form of government was a king (pharaoh) with him at the very top of the pyramid, and everyone else underneath. (slaves at the very bottom). Other pyramids across the world are similar, but may have 4 or 8 blocks at the top of their pyramids instead of just 1. This would mean that their government was more of an oligarchy. (or some jackass just stole the top few bricks).
Now, when you combine the astronomy, government and calendar aspect of the pyramid, then it almost tells a story. When humanity reaches the top of the pyramid, then the gods will return from the stars and rule of humanity. To most of those cultures, they look forward to that date. These are cultures who worshiped strange beings (false gods/aliens/whatever you want to call them), so their return is a time of celebration.
Now, on the Biblical side of the prophecies, this is the time when the false gods return to Earth, blaspheming God and persecuting those who worship him. Although they seem like two opposing prophecies, they are just two sides to the same coin.
On a side note, Jesus is frequently referred to as a cornerstone of Christianity - not the top brick. He is the founder, yet he is right there with the slaves (at the bottom). The verse "the meek shall inherit the earth" can also be visualized as the pyramid being turned upside down. So you have the slaves, the humbled, and the "non royals" ruling the rest of the world with their cornerstone, Jesus.
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| czygyny
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11/7/2009 9:00 PM
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Yes, I believe we are in the Time of Jacob's Trouble. The birth pangs are coming in close waves.
I do not believe, however, in the traditional view of christianity's rapture. To explain this however, I must set the groundwork; that there is no 'new' dispensation in the timeline of God's people. All believers, old testament and new believers are spiritual Israel. The patriarchs looked towards the redemption of their souls through Messiah, we look back on His sacrificial work for our lives. Being a part of true Israel has always been a matter of faith first, then obedience as proof of belief.
Then so, if we are all spiritual Israel, then the old testament prophets were speaking of us when they revealed God's future plans, especially concerning the Day of YHWH and end times, concerning Israel
Passages in the prophets Jeremiah 23:7&8, Ezekiel 34: 11-31, 39:27 & 28, Hosea 1, Revelation 12:6, among others, speaks of the time that spiritual Israel will be drawn out of the nations and supernaturally protected, just like the freed slaves of Israel were protected the first time.
It is described in Ezekiel 20:33-38 thus:
“As I live,” says the YHWH, “surely with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out, I will rule over you. I will bring you out from the peoples and gather you out of the countries where you are scattered, with a mighty hand, with an outstretched arm, and with fury poured out. And I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will plead My case with you face to face. Just as I pleaded My case with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will plead My case with you,” says the YHWH. “I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant; I will purge the rebels from among you, and those who transgress against Me; I will bring them out of the country where they dwell, but they shall not enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am YHWH.”
We will escape the wrath of God towards the unrepentant Earth, but we will be protected and tested in the 'wilderness', it will be a time of winnowing and purging but it will be for our refinement and a final separation of dross from the precious, the profane from the pure.
What that means exactly, I am not quite sure...but I really get the feeling that those who expect a painless passage from this age to the next will be surprised and unprepared, the 'virgins' without the preparation of extra oil, if you will. |
| ZTE
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11/7/2009 9:00 PM
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Conclusion:The rapture comes first at the beginning of the Tribulation and the mark of the beast, "666," occurs after the rapture and sometime after the middle of the tribulation. Christians will not be present during the tribulation period but many will be saved as they search to understand what has happened. We can only assume that they will listen to past recorded sermons, read books about Jesus, and watch recorded videos. Many will have their sins forgiven as they believe in Jesus and depend on Him. Many will also die as a result of disbelief. Now is the time to believe in Jesus and let him take over our life.
I know one thing, JESUS IS MY LORD AND SAVIOR :) Quoting: cosmic yo yo
Personally, I don't believe in a rapture. I'm not saying this to convince you to believe what I believe, because I could care less. I'm saying this to keep in mind to be prepared in case there isn't a rapture.
If there is a rapture, I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong and be glad for it. If there's not one though, you can't be looking for one. Satan loves to twist the Word of God and create doctrine out of it. So, it is possible he can deceive people by instilling a "fake" rapture.
I don't believe the Bible supports the idea of a rapture, and that the modern concept of a rapture started in the 1800s. But just don't lose faith if there isn't a rapture I guess is what I'm saying.
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11/7/2009 9:03 PM
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I agree with Crzgyny, in that the purpose of the Tribulation period is to reunite the nation of Israel and bring them back to the promised land. Personally, I don't want to leave my comfy house and go live in a war-torn desert, but hey, I didn't write the prophecies. Anyway, God will make the situation a leave or die scenario so that we have no choice but to return to the promised land.
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| Sugarelf
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11/7/2009 9:05 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
it seems to me that it became exceedingly clear to me that the Trib had begun when the 9+ eq and tsunami hit Indonesia a few years ago. Quoting: Texas Uncensored
YES !!!!
SUmatra !!
TSUnami !!
Double SHUs !!
12-26-2004 !!
SU-Na-ME !!
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| Texas Uncensored
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11/7/2009 9:07 PM
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Are we in the Tribulation now?
If so, when did it start?
If not, please explain your stance.
:
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Hi Aquaruis 7. I think we are in the Tribulation period. While not a biblical scholar, it seemsto me that it became exceedingly clear to me that the Trib had begun when the 9+ eq and tsunami hit Indonesia a few years ago.
After that, many things matching biblical descriptions have been occurring with greater frequency, now many events happening simutaneously.
The question is "are these events happening on their own, or are they being caused by TPTB to freak us out?"
Hi Tex. Well the Bible never really said who or what would cause these things to happen, just that they would. Regardless, they are happening just as the prophets said they would.
You are correct indeed. It's like watching a movie in real time.
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| Texas Uncensored
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11/7/2009 9:12 PM
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it seems to me that it became exceedingly clear to me that the Trib had begun when the 9+ eq and tsunami hit Indonesia a few years ago.
YES !!!!
SUmatra !!
TSUnami !!
Double SHUs !!
12-26-2004 !!
SU-Na-ME !!
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11:11 Quoting: Sugarelf
WOW ! Incredible.
ZTE, the pyramids were built by ET's who were here before the earth up heavals and floods. They were where the head honchos lived, and also where their power source & tech were.
The early Egyptians merely moved in. The first Egyptian royals lived in the pyramids.
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| Anonymous Coward
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11/7/2009 9:13 PM | | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
I heard someone say 9/11/01 started the trib period, which is now over and we are on the cusp of the 1000 yr reign of the Christ.
The George Bush 'terror' reign is over. |
| ZTE
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11/7/2009 9:38 PM
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it seems to me that it became exceedingly clear to me that the Trib had begun when the 9+ eq and tsunami hit Indonesia a few years ago.
YES !!!!
SUmatra !!
TSUnami !!
Double SHUs !!
12-26-2004 !!
SU-Na-ME !!
I am NAMED SHOE !!!!
11:11
WOW ! Incredible.
ZTE, the pyramids were built by ET's who were here before the earth up heavals and floods. They were where the head honchos lived, and also where their power source & tech were.
The early Egyptians merely moved in. The first Egyptian royals lived in the pyramids.
If you read back through, I did not address the question of WHO built the pyramids, because it is irrelevant. My argument is WHY they were built and what purpose they serve.
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| TXGal4Truth
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11/7/2009 9:41 PM
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Conclusion:The rapture comes first at the beginning of the Tribulation and the mark of the beast, "666," occurs after the rapture and sometime after the middle of the tribulation. Christians will not be present during the tribulation period but many will be saved as they search to understand what has happened. We can only assume that they will listen to past recorded sermons, read books about Jesus, and watch recorded videos. Many will have their sins forgiven as they believe in Jesus and depend on Him. Many will also die as a result of disbelief. Now is the time to believe in Jesus and let him take over our life.
I know one thing, JESUS IS MY LORD AND SAVIOR :)
Personally, I don't believe in a rapture. I'm not saying this to convince you to believe what I believe, because I could care less. I'm saying this to keep in mind to be prepared in case there isn't a rapture.
If there is a rapture, I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong and be glad for it. If there's not one though, you can't be looking for one. Satan loves to twist the Word of God and create doctrine out of it. So, it is possible he can deceive people by instilling a "fake" rapture.
I don't believe the Bible supports the idea of a rapture, and that the modern concept of a rapture started in the 1800s. But just don't lose faith if there isn't a rapture I guess is what I'm saying.
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst. Quoting: ZTE
Well said!
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| czygyny
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11/7/2009 9:57 PM
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I agree with Crzgyny, in that the purpose of the Tribulation period is to reunite the nation of Israel and bring them back to the promised land. Personally, I don't want to leave my comfy house and go live in a war-torn desert, but hey, I didn't write the prophecies. Anyway, God will make the situation a leave or die scenario so that we have no choice but to return to the promised land. Quoting: ZTE
I was grousing internally about this very thing, much the same way you just wrote ;-)
A still, quiet voice spoke to the heart of this 'rabid' gardener...“would you come and replant it (Israel) and make it beautiful for Me?”
Now, who can refuse an Offer like that?
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| ZTE
Against All Odds
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11/7/2009 10:00 PM
| | Re: ARE WE IN THE TRIBULATION? (serious question ... serious answers only, please) | Quote |
I agree with Crzgyny, in that the purpose of the Tribulation period is to reunite the nation of Israel and bring them back to the promised land. Personally, I don't want to leave my comfy house and go live in a war-torn desert, but hey, I didn't write the prophecies. Anyway, God will make the situation a leave or die scenario so that we have no choice but to return to the promised land.
I was grousing internally about this very thing, much the same way you just wrote ;-)
A still, quiet voice spoke to the heart of this 'rabid' gardener ...“would you come and replant it (Israel) and make it beautiful for Me?”
Now, who can refuse an Offer like that?
Yep, I regard myself as a Sheepdog. Not foolish enough to be a sheep, not wise/pure enough to be a shepherd, but I can round up all the sheep for the shepherd.
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