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nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague
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The Conservative Monster User ID: 747310 11/4/2009 6:55 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote | Now you know why Putin unleashed the flu on the Ukraine, I knew this was made in a RUSSIAN LAB.
UPDATE 1-Ukraine says to pay on time for Russian gas
[link to www.reuters.com]
Last Edited by The Conservative Monster on 11/4/2009 at 6:55 PM |
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Rokit5 User ID: 677826 11/4/2009 6:56 PM
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cover up with that insane police stand off in L.A.
If anyone is not familiar with this guy then read this...
[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 793040 11/4/2009 6:58 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
Has anyone heard from Andrew lately? He is in the Ukraine. Quoting: lil*miss
Nancy Leider and the Zetas may have kidnapped him... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 503234 11/4/2009 7:00 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote | The WHO said it was ready to use rapid containment measures if needed, .... compelling vaccination or internment via martial law and other “emergency measures
that was it plans before level 6 and the Obama emergency declaration in april 2009
wonder what containment measures will be now used
as the ukraine flu is spreading like wildfire...
now nov 4th 2009 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 469144 11/4/2009 7:04 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
Has anyone heard from Andrew lately? He is in the Ukraine.
Wondering the same. I've been looking for him but haven't seen him post.
Does anyone know him well enough to PM him? Quoting: lil*miss
Here's his post on the subject
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 806733 11/4/2009 7:08 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
yet i can still buy a flight to the ukraine...ummmm Quoting: booo!!! 802074
What's your point? Your logic is embarrassingly weak.
There is no reason to assume the airport would be closed in EITHER truth or failure of this doom. To say that since you can buy a ticket, that deadly plague (for some?) is not happening (healthy people dying in days from lung-fever), is the sort of logic which will get you killed eventually, in life.
Try to think without the handrail, because there are a lot of reasons to keep airports open, even in the face of obvious unknown sickness. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 487397 11/4/2009 7:17 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote | you know I was freaking out about this until I got to the post that included "zones where reanimation is taking place". Yup - once you get to zombies ...any and all credibility ...out the fuckin' Okho. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 778687 11/4/2009 7:17 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
Has anyone heard from Andrew lately? He is in the Ukraine.
Wondering the same. I've been looking for him but haven't seen him post.
Does anyone know him well enough to PM him?
Here's his post on the subject
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 469144
Hasn't logged on since 11/01/09. Hope he's ok. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810282 11/4/2009 7:27 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
yet i can still buy a flight to the ukraine...ummmm
What's your point? Your logic is embarrassingly weak.
There is no reason to assume the airport would be closed in EITHER truth or failure of this doom. To say that since you can buy a ticket, that deadly plague (for some?) is not happening (healthy people dying in days from lung-fever), is the sort of logic which will get you killed eventually, in life.
Try to think without the handrail, because there are a lot of reasons to keep airports open, even in the face of obvious unknown sickness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806733
Then you haven't read the fear mongering drama in this thread.
If there was ANY sign of a plague transmitting as quickly as is being discussed in this thread, YOU BET YOU ASS THEY WOULD CLOSE THE BORDERS.
It is YOU who is failing to rub the two brain cells together if you believe otherwise.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810534 11/4/2009 7:32 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote | unless they WANT it to spread...
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810534 11/4/2009 7:36 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote | Other regions of Ukraine should prepare for quarantine
The Cabinet of Ministers will consider quarantine in other 10 regions of Ukraine. Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko announced this today during a meeting with regional leaders on how to prevent the spread [link to en.for-ua.com] |
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GraftedPromise User ID: 808750 11/4/2009 7:36 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
I'm not afraid. I always wondered what is there beyond death. Bring it on I say. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810105
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... death itself is not bad ... but PAIN is not enjoyable! ...
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 778687 11/4/2009 7:38 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
unless they WANT it to spread...
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That would also explain why they are keeping it so quiet - give it time to spread. |
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GraftedPromise User ID: 808750 11/4/2009 7:38 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
Has anyone heard from Andrew lately? He is in the Ukraine.
Wondering the same. I've been looking for him but haven't seen him post.
Does anyone know him well enough to PM him?
Here's his post on the subject
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Hasn't logged on since 11/01/09. Hope he's ok. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 778687
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810282 11/4/2009 7:39 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
unless they WANT it to spread... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810534
Not closing the borders would be too apparent. They need plausible deniability.
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booo!!! User ID: 802074 11/4/2009 7:42 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
yet i can still buy a flight to the ukraine...ummmm
What's your point? Your logic is embarrassingly weak.
There is no reason to assume the airport would be closed in EITHER truth or failure of this doom. To say that since you can buy a ticket, that deadly plague (for some?) is not happening (healthy people dying in days from lung-fever), is the sort of logic which will get you killed eventually, in life.
Try to think without the handrail, because there are a lot of reasons to keep airports open, even in the face of obvious unknown sickness. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806733
all im saying is that if its as bad as we are being made to believe shut the country down and contain the outbreak.
orrr, why arent bordering countries enacting a full lockdown on all travel into and out of the ukraine.
no movement no spread...simples!!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810459 11/4/2009 7:42 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
I often read kavkazcenter, but remember this source is not very reliable. They publish everything anti-Russian, it may be true facts, it may be theories, it may be propaganda. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 535854
What, exactly, would you consider to be a reliable source, Fox News? |
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booo!!! User ID: 802074 11/4/2009 7:45 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
unless they WANT it to spread.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810534
you mean so 'they' can kill us all off? lol
i imagine if 'they' wanted to kill us all off we wouldnt be here right now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810282 11/4/2009 7:55 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
unless they WANT it to spread...
Not closing the borders would be too apparent. They need plausible deniability.
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Yep, they need plausible deniability and they can't achieve that by not closing the borders ESPECIALLY in the face of this:
Ukraine recently participated in international bioterrorism exercise involving -- get this -- Black Death plague attack scenario conducted Sep 2009
INTERPOL has just released details of an international bioterrorism tabletop exercise that took place in late September 2009. Senior law enforcement officials, health care professionals and experts from international organizations took part in responding to a simulated global bioterrorism attack and its aftermath.
Participants in the Black Death scenario were faced with a fictional, intentional plague attack involving countries from their region, with the exercise designed to assist them in identifying any critical co-operation and co-ordination issues which could hinder a quick and successful response to such an attack in real life.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810534 11/4/2009 7:57 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote | Ukrainian News Agency "Fraza" reported that, according to informed sources, "it has been confirmed 100 % Pneumonic Plague in Ukraine".
The Agency asserts that "the head physician of the medical institutions has sent out an informal disposal - not to sow panic, to refute the information about the plague, and to speak only of swine influenza". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810534 11/4/2009 8:03 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote | Ukraine: Influenza or Pneumonic Plague? The situation is getting worse and worse
Publication time: 2 November 2009, 21:37
Ukrainian News Agency "Fraza" reported that, according to informed sources, "it has been confirmed 100 % Pneumonic Plague in Ukraine".
The Agency asserts that "the head physician of the medical institutions has sent out an informal disposal - not to sow panic, to refute the information about the plague, and to speak only of swine influenza".
It is also required to distribute masks at health facilities with 8 levels of protection and anti-plague protection costumes. There is also an informal order not to allow any visitors to see the patients.
According to the "Fraza" agency, "today in Ukraine pneumonic plague is going in parallel with swine flu. The plague has killed over 60 people, and about 14 from the flu.
Meanwhile, the press service of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine reported that there is only one death from "California" virus A/N1N1 in Ukraine.
"In Ukraine there are 22 cases recorded of the virus A/N1N1 disease and there is only one fatal consequence as a result. All other cases of death from influenza has only a speculative attitude to "California" virus," press service reports.
The situation with the epidemic of influenza is a complex and unpredictable because of the propensity of influenza A/H1N1 virus to mutation, said First Deputy Minister of Health Mr. Lazoryshynets on Monday, November 2.
"The situation is complicated and unpredictable. We found a strain of this virus in our laboratory ... This virus is dangerous because it can mutate, and we can get a very different kind of virus, which was in Latin America or in Mexico, now it is European ", - said Lazoryshynets at a press conference, the "Correspondent" magazine informs.
At a press conference Lazoryshynets also said that there are 22 officially confirmed cases of influenza A/H1N1 in Ukraine.
First Vice Prime Minister Oleksandr Turchinov previously stated that as of Monday morning, November 2, there are 64 registered deaths in Ukraine from flu and acute respiratory viral infections.
Meantime, according to official information the highest level of epidemiological risk is declared in Ivano-Frankivsk (Stanislav) area, from 2 November. This decision was made by Ivano-Frankivsk Regional emergency epidemiological commission at the extended session on November 2.
In accordance with the Commission, quarantine will last for all educational institutions in the area until 20 November, a commission to monitor the distribution of medicines is also made, which come in the region as humanitarian aid.
The commission agreed that health workers will provide individual first aid kit. There will be extra transport allocated to visit patients by the district doctors.
According to the Ministry of Health, today in Ukraine there are 255 000 registered cases of influenza and SARS, of whom 15 000 were hospitalized.
Ministry of Transport and Communications of Ukraine introduced a permanent monitoring of the situation on a clear implementation of the planned anti-epidemic measures in public transport.
A special monitoring group studied the transport department on November 2, how the anti-epidemiological measures were applied at the Kiev railway station, central bus station of the capital and the International airport "Borispol".
Polish epidemiologists November 3 arrive in Ukraine for obtaining specimens from patients with the Ukrainians. The experts will arrive in Lviv, where it is supposed to take 190 samples.
Polish epidemiologists are expected to arrive in Ukraine on November 3 to obtain samples from patients. The experts will arrive in Lviv, where 190 samples are to be taken.
Lithuanian Foreign Ministry on November 2 recommended to the residents of Lithuania to refrain from unnecessary trips to the Ukraine.
Department of Monitoring,
Kavkaz Center [link to www.kavkazcenter.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 770865 11/4/2009 8:12 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
Ukraine: Influenza or Pneumonic Plague? The situation is getting worse and worse
Publication time: 2 November 2009, 21:37 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810534
Read the DATE before you post shit |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810534 11/4/2009 8:15 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
Ukraine: Influenza or Pneumonic Plague? The situation is getting worse and worse
Publication time: 2 November 2009, 21:37
Read the DATE before you post shit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 770865
stick your head back up your ass shill. the date is ok....what? please tell us the correct timeline for doom....cunt! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810282 11/4/2009 8:20 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
The situation with the epidemic of influenza is a complex and unpredictable because of the propensity of influenza A/H1N1 virus to mutation, said First Deputy Minister of Health Mr. Lazoryshynets on Monday, November 2. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810534
HOWEVER, research has shown that H1N1 does NOT have the propensity to mutate due to a missing gene or genetic marker (something like that). I'll look for those studies.
None of this passes the smell test.
Has anyone conducted a little due diligence on the credibility of this paper/these sources??
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 770865 11/4/2009 8:22 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
Ukraine: Influenza or Pneumonic Plague? The situation is getting worse and worse
Publication time: 2 November 2009, 21:37
Read the DATE before you post shit
stick your head back up your ass shill. the date is ok....what? please tell us the correct timeline for doom....cunt! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810534
Ok...ok...READ THE HEADLINE OF THE THREAD. NOV 4th UPDATE. You're posting stuff from the 2nd so therefore is NOT an update its just supplemental information. You fucking Idiot!
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 757124 11/4/2009 8:23 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
Now you know why Putin unleashed the flu on the Ukraine, I knew this was made in a RUSSIAN LAB.
UPDATE 1-Ukraine says to pay on time for Russian gas
[ link to www.reuters.com] Quoting: The Conservative Monster
Look up that Joseph Mosche [sp] character. If this outbreak is true, then it gives enormous credit to this story. He was claiming Baxter Pharma was going to release a bioweapon in the Ukraine. He was subsequently chased and teargassed multiple times by the LAPD.
Crazy stuff. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 810282 11/4/2009 8:24 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
The situation with the epidemic of influenza is a complex and unpredictable because of the propensity of influenza A/H1N1 virus to mutation, said First Deputy Minister of Health Mr. Lazoryshynets on Monday, November 2.
HOWEVER, research has shown that H1N1 does NOT have the propensity to mutate due to a missing gene or genetic marker (something like that). I'll look for those studies.
None of this passes the smell test.
Has anyone conducted a little due diligence on the credibility of this paper/these sources??
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Nope, nope, nope...sorry guys. I was completely wrong with the above. The research shows H1N1 not to be a "super spreader" due to it's current genetic variation but could mutate.
[link to www.upi.com]
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anonymous User ID: 810079 11/4/2009 8:35 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
yet i can still buy a flight to the ukraine...ummmm Quoting: booo!!! 802074
this world is run by morons as leaders.. we're all gonna die of desease . ... good grief. well maybe they have some knd of emmunity built up in thier systems ....keep a pump bottle with clorox liquid and 75 percent water for fast hand wash at the sinks..lol... before this is over everyone wil be wearing mask gloves and plastic garbage bags over thier clothing to work each moring.. picture that on mass transit....lol...... |
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Bluebird  User ID: 730536 11/4/2009 9:12 PM
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Dear fellow citizens!
I address you in performance of my constitutional duty under the Article 106 of the Basic Law of the state.
The reason is the emergency epidemic situation in the country.
Infections of viral origin, including the A/H1N1 flu, are rapidly spreading across Ukraine.
The emergency is evident in the scale of the epidemic: the speed and the geography of its spreading, rapid progress of the illness and the exceptional number of deaths.
People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely unprecedented and inconceivable in the XXI century.
All the limits have been exceeded - even those under the Constitution that determine my actions as the President.
Therefore I am motivated by the most important: the security of your life and your health.
Therefore I give clear and frank assessment of the situation. And you should know that.
We have special risk factors that aggravate the epidemic in Ukraine.
The conclusions of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, my numerous consultations with national and international experts show that.
First. Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three pathogens of viral infections came to Ukraine at the same time: two of them are seasonal flu and the third is the A/H1N1.
According to virologists, such a combination of infections due to mutation may produce a new, even more aggressive virus.
That's why I have addressed the United Nations with the request to conduct a virologic examination in Ukraine and to establish the appropriate laboratory in order to take timely preventive measures.
Second. The A/H1N1 virus is easily mutating. It has travelled across half of the globe before coming to Ukraine.
This means that the virus has become particularly pathogenic.
This means that medical aid must be urgently reinforced by emergency, critical care treatment.
The third risk factor. It is generally known that the only way to prevent any infection is vaccination.
Due to unprofessional and highly disorganized vaccination against measles and rubella in Ukraine the practice of vaccination is compromised in essence.
According to the estimates of the Minister of Health approximately 58% of citizens are vaccinated today in Ukraine with the effective level being 90% and higher.
People have stopped getting vaccinated against extremely dangerous infections: tuberculosis, diphtheria, etc.
This led to high risk of A/H1N1 infection spread, when the virus came to Ukraine and made impossible preventive vaccination against both strains of seasonal flu.
All this made general epidemic situation in Ukraine even more complicated.
As the President I ask you, dear fellow citizens, to reconsider your attitude to vaccination and do it if necessary, but only, I emphasize it - only after consultation with the doctor.
At the same time I instruct the Government and the Ministry of Health to immediately start preventive and promotional work in areas where there is no epidemic, targeting primarily the special risk groups.
I demand the Government to immediately cancel the existing order of registration of medical supplies, including vaccines.
Studying this issue by the National Security and Defense Council shown that this procedure has allowed various dealers to bring to Ukraine dubious medicines, which are not recognized by the WHO or other national institutions.
Under my direction the Security Service is investigating the issue.
The fourth factor. In reality it is the Reactor 4.
I mean the epidemic, rapid spread of viral infections in the west of the country. The Government, the leadership of the Parliament and the opposition were all aware of that already in early October.
The first and the most effective preventive measure is avoiding large gatherings of people.
Ignoring this principle, hundreds of thousands of people from different regions were brought to Kyiv; from both the areas struck by the epidemic, and those where there was no evidence of this epidemic.
This greatly increased the risk of infection.
I emphasize: it was a well-known thing. And it was ignored by the Chairman of the Parliament, by the opposition leader and, first of all, by the Prime Minister. And Chief Sanitary Inspector, together with his subordinates in the regions, including those in the city of Kiev ignored their professional duty.
This directly reminds of the May Day demonstration in Kiev, held shortly after the accident at Chernobyl NPP.
This is a display of criminal irresponsibility of politicians and complete indifference towards the people.
Let me cite one example. On October 20 the epidemic of flu was declared in Ternopil with schools and kindergartens closed for quarantine. "From October 21 secondary and primary schools are closed due to the growing rate of flu and ARD sickness”. This was the order of local authorities.
As of October 20 the rate of ARD in Ternopil was 172.9 cases per 10 thousand people with epidemiological threshold for the city being 160 patients per 10 thousand people. In other words - all services of the country responsible for monitoring the figure were informed and knew about the situation.
However, not a single Sanitary Inspector has banned either the movement of people, nor their gathering, including those in Kiev on October 24, when people have gathered at the central square.
I would like to remind you, my dear, that on October 24, 2009 10 deaths were known to have occurred in Ternopil region itself and 6 deaths were reported in Lviv region. And in 7 days after the abovementioned gathering Kyiv turned out in the situation, when the rate of sickness demanded the announcement of flu epidemic. This is the behavior of the great politicians. The neglect of elementary means of prevention of a disease in any country in the world, by any society. Because they must conduct a show, they have concerts, because they were paid for and 130 million have already been spent.
In that, dear Ukrainians, I see not only moral but also criminal liability.
I have addressed the Prosecutor General of Ukraine with the request to institute criminal charges of negligence committed by first of all the Chief Sanitary Inspector, Kyiv City Sanitarian and the officials, who, despite having daily information on the epidemic situation in the country, neglected it in pursuit of political dividends and ambition.
Now, the only principle of organizing preventive measures at the national scale should be as follows:
We treat the West and defend East, Center, North and South of Ukraine amain.
I now rely solely on the professionalism of our doctors. Today they are the true heroes of our nation.
I once again demand the Government to comply with the order the National Security and Defense Council to resolve the issue of wages for our doctors in this difficult period for the country.
The fifth factor.
Dear fellow citizens, the key threat that is aggravating the situation is chaos in the system of healthcare and protection of lives of people.
Today we must recognize that Ukraine does not have a single healthcare system. Prevention of any infection, including through vaccination, the localization and overcoming the consequences of epidemics is the responsibility of the State Sanitary-Epidemiological Service of Ukraine.
The Service is headed by the Chief Sanitary Inspector. He is appointed by the Prime Minister.
The current Constitution after alterations in 2004 makes the Government solely responsible for conducting state healthcare policy.
The practice of using the power, as evident today, is a failure.
To the executive power, which is not subordinate to the President, I have suggested the holistic healthcare reforms plan and a set of instructions and recommendations that would help create the optimal model of the system for years to come. My remarks were presented as the groundless interference in Government’s work and as the unfounded criticism.
Back in April of 2009 I addressed the Government with the request to establish a special interdepartmental commission on fighting the spread of flu viruses, to finance the establishment of Flu Center and to take all measures to protect the country against flu. That included providing adequate availability of medicines, facemasks and all other necessaries.
Partial implementation of the instructions has its consequences.
They were not ignoring me – they were ignoring the people, the citizens. It is clear why. Because Ukraine still has unfair system of healthcare - one is for the power, the other is for the people.
We must change the system. We must change the entire system of government in Ukraine.
But now, in this moment there is no time for waiting or remonstrance.
National Security and Defense Council should become the center of decision-making.
Failure to comply with its orders will immediately result in application to the law enforcement authorities.
I remind all the responsible persons and draw attention to all of my orders, made in Lviv four days ago. In three days the deadline for compliance with these orders expires.
With my decree I put Minister of Health and Chief Sanitary Inspector of Ukraine into the Council for National Security and Defense.
I am conscious of my responsibility.
I express deep condolences to the families and relatives of those who have died.
I express my deep appreciation to doctors, who are saving our people risking their own lives. I am moved by this sacrifice. Such a commitment means that the epidemic will be stopped.
I appeal to all of you, dear fellow citizens, to show solidarity, mutual support, and strictly adhere to all the safety regulations regarding protection of your health and lives.
For not a single moment you will be left alone by the state.
Thank you for your attention.
[link to www.president.gov.ua] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 753811 11/4/2009 10:05 PM | | Re: nov 4 update ukraine - Many Ukrainians believe that Ukraine has been infected with pneumonic plague | Quote |
IN MY OPINION, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THREAD OF THE DAY
IF HANDLED WITH MATURITY AND WISDOM, COULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF THE LEGENDARY STATUS OF GLP'S GERMAN GUY THREAD
( SEE THE ARCHIVES IF YOU ARE A NEWBIE )
I TOOK INSTANT NOTICE OF LINDA MOULTON HOWE'S RESPONSE ON C2C THE OTHER NIGHT ( SHE IS USUALLY VERY GENTLE AND ALMOST PLACID, RARELY GETS HER DEFENSIVE POSTURE UP IN THAT TONE)
I HEARD THE PANIC IN HER VOICE...SHE HAS SEEN H1N1 AUTOPSY SLIDES OF THESE VICTIMS AND THAT THEIR LUNGS LOOKED LIKE
'RAW HAMBURGER INSIDE'. SHE KNOWS WHAT THAT MEANS FOLKS.
I SMELL ALIBEK HERE...
UKRAINE IS VERY INTERESTING INDEED, ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE GENETIC COMPONENT OF *SPAIN* I.E. "SPANISH" FLU '18,
MEXICANS WHO ARE ESSENTIALLY HALF EUROSPANISH AND THE LINKS WITH SEPHARDIC AND ASHKENAZIM DNA IN BOTH SPAIN AND UKRAINE
THE WHOLE THING IS OMINOUS, IN LIGHT OF MOSHE AND HIS TALK SHOW WARNING AND THEN TAKEDOWN BY THE SWAT OFFICERS IN AUG.
ITS HITTING SOME VARIANT DERIVATIVE OF SPANIARDS/MEXICANS HARDER FOR SOME REASON. WHY?
PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD PINNED TRINITY AND BY ALL MEANS
MONITOR THE TWITTERVERSE (TWITTERSPHERE?) OF UPDATES.
OUR GADGETS CAN SAVE US THIS TIME ROUND, AS THE SIGNALS CAN MOVE EVEN FASTER THAN TRAVELERS AND TOURISTS AS FAR AS
QUARANTINES AND CORDON SANITAIRE THAT CAN BE ENACTED
PRAYERS TO ALL! Quoting: SEVEN THUNDERS, NLI 616315
I'm Mexican American....are there reports that it's hitting our race harder? |
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