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Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 723299
11/4/2009 2:52 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
478,000 with 'flu' symptoms..  |
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max
User ID: 751565
11/4/2009 3:51 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
this is a complete fabrication you fear mongering nut, 13 people have been diognosed with h1n1 13 for sure thats it |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 418693
11/4/2009 4:07 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
/yawn
yeah, thats what happens during the flu season.
No it isn't!!!
If one is to believe any of this, there are three significant issues:
1. Dissimilar symptoms and etiology.
2. Speed of propogation.
3. Geographic clustering.
Ignorant denial is often worse than ignorant approval. Quoting: SEADOG
Exactly! Something strange is definitely going on here. My guess is Phase II.
I still see posts where people are denying there is any flu at all, that it's all made up. I live in SW Michigan and we had several schools closed last week and lots of people I know personally were mild to moderately ill and for most it went straight to the chest. Not head first like usual. But if denying it makes them feel safer...to each his own I guess. |
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mek
User ID: 810404
11/4/2009 4:09 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
terrible |
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mek
User ID: 810404
11/4/2009 4:11 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
flowers
tavistok |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 488240
11/4/2009 4:12 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
that spraying seems to be working
fuck shit fuck
too much evidence of shit
fuck shit fuck
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Enigmatoid
User ID: 84129
11/4/2009 4:15 PM
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Didn't Joseph Moshe, an Israeli microbiologist that the MSM painted as a nutcase, talk about influenza virus as bio-weapon? Didn't he specifically mention Ukraine?
[link to www.unfictional.com]
I believe in the 2 party political process but I don't think democrats nor republicans should be either one of them. |
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redshedevil
User ID: 641806
11/4/2009 4:19 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
I posted this on the other "flagged posting" on the flu in Ukraine but thought to repost on this thread to get more people searching with me on this stuff..
I speak Russian so I thought how do I get info on what is going on.. When Iran was having it's troubles after the election Twitter was used to send updates and pictures and video. Same with China.
So I went to Twitter and found the top 50 twitter blogs from people in the Ukraine I specifically looked for people in the Infected areas and or jounalists broadcasters or those who would be vocal.
Other than one post about h1n1 I saw them updating all kinds of things on their site but nothing on this panic or the fear of this pandemic.. So I got to think WTF.. I am not saying it isn't happening lords knows something is going on,,,, but if there were so many sick or whatever closures wouldn't the youngings be speaking more about it???
I am going to keep checking the twitter pages and see if anything comes up. I figure it is probably the best source out there for information on this as they are still uploading updates if anything is happening.
I am going to check the Romanian ones now and see what they are saying. Might be a suggestion with a google translator for anyone with time on their hands trying to find random info. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810181
11/4/2009 4:38 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Just got a weird feeling about those gauze/cheesecloth strips ordered to make masks. Immediately the image of the smallpox contaminated blankets given to Native Americans came to mind. |
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candlestick
User ID: 784872
11/4/2009 4:49 PM | |
watcher
User ID: 652858
11/4/2009 4:52 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Stop and think for a moment or two. Watch the recommended videos from the Benedictine nun/Spanish doctor. Baxter. Inuit woman dug up to recreate 1918 pandemic flu. Tests done with seasonal flu created by BAXTER back in Feb. KILLED ferrets that they were tested on. Why? Because the seasonal flu shots were contaminated with live H5N1!!! Now the vaccines have been coming out and now we have a REAL pandemic on our hands! What a perfect coverup/depopulation scenario, eh? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703130
11/4/2009 4:59 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Why in Ukraine ? |
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watcher
User ID: 652858
11/4/2009 5:02 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Ukraine
Baxter Ukraine
29 Beresnyakovskaya st
02098 Kiev
Phone: +38 044 4962410 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 599165
11/4/2009 5:06 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Why in Ukraine ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 703130
Later in the year, a bizarre story emerged on the internet. The news was full of reports on ( [link to www.huffingtonpost.com] a man named Joseph Moshe who was arrested after a hours long standoff with the police because he had supposedly made threats against the White House. The man was able to withstand multiple rounds of tear gas...which left L.A. police officers amazed.
However, the internet community was very skeptical of the true reasons behind the man's arrest. Comments on the Huffington Post website immediately began pouring in about an unreported side to this story, namely that Joseph Moshe was a Mossad Agent who specialized in biological warfare and who called into a radio show to warn people about a biological weapn that was being made by Baxter international that would be spread through vaccine and would cause a plague upon its release.
Although anyone can make a doomsday claim and we should never believe anyone (and it must be said that the Truth movement handled this well, the message was spread without being proclaimed as gospel) the amazing part about Moshe's claim was the location where Moshe said the biological weapon was being produced.
Moshe claimed that Baxter's laboratory in the Ukraine out of all places was creating this biological weapon. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding. For Moshe to correctly name the country where a new epidemic would be unleashed, requires either inside information, or an incredible coincidence as anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics can confirm for himself. |
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anonymous
User ID: 810079
11/4/2009 5:26 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Why in Ukraine ?
Later in the year, a bizarre story emerged on the internet. The news was full of reports on ( [ link to www.huffingtonpost.com] a man named Joseph Moshe who was arrested after a hours long standoff with the police because he had supposedly made threats against the White House. The man was able to withstand multiple rounds of tear gas...which left L.A. police officers amazed.
However, the internet community was very skeptical of the true reasons behind the man's arrest. Comments on the Huffington Post website immediately began pouring in about an unreported side to this story, namely that Joseph Moshe was a Mossad Agent who specialized in biological warfare and who called into a radio show to warn people about a biological weapn that was being made by Baxter international that would be spread through vaccine and would cause a plague upon its release.
Although anyone can make a doomsday claim and we should never believe anyone (and it must be said that the Truth movement handled this well, the message was spread without being proclaimed as gospel) the amazing part about Moshe's claim was the location where Moshe said the biological weapon was being produced.
Moshe claimed that Baxter's laboratory in the Ukraine out of all places was creating this biological weapon. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding. For Moshe to correctly name the country where a new epidemic would be unleashed, requires either inside information, or an incredible coincidence as anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics can confirm for himself.
yep it was a bazaar story ...nothing to back it up.. where is cnn abc fox .. on this story.. russia iran nothing but a huffington drama piece ..no substance.. Moshe .no back up asubstance just a comment bty a guy going to jail or something .. many nations have bio warfare ................ |
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TorontonianGuy
User ID: 803476
11/4/2009 5:34 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Does anybody know if there is an audio clip of Moshe calling the radio station a couple of months ago ?
My gut instinct tells me this much more serious than H1N1. Black lungs ? Close to a 100% mortality rate if untreated !!
Pneumonic plague is airborne and can spread very quickly ! |
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candlestick
User ID: 784872
11/4/2009 5:36 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 599165
11/4/2009 5:48 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Does anybody know if there is an audio clip of Moshe calling the radio station a couple of months ago ?
My gut instinct tells me this much more serious than H1N1. Black lungs ? Close to a 100% mortality rate if untreated !!
Pneumonic plague is airborne and can spread very quickly ! Quoting: TorontonianGuy 803476
Maybe here.I'm just looking through but thought I'd post the link first.
[link to www.fourwinds10.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 503234
11/4/2009 5:54 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
[link to sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com]
Some kind of mysterious (not mysterious anymore - It IS the PLAGUE) virus is spreading - there are various reports from 3000 dead - though officially from govt. there is only around 60.
This is not H1N1 - this is causing lungs to bleed - with the lungs reaching 130 degrees or more (upon autopsies).
The authorities deny that this is pneumonic plague, and insist that people die from influenza,
At this hour a team of experts from the World Health Organization are on the ground
Ukraine, but the search for solid answers about what in the world is going on there has not made much progress
Some say the swine flu there has mutated into a much deadlier form.... |
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mr...bojangles
User ID: 810299
11/4/2009 5:58 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
chemtrails attack the lungs first.....
whatever they sprayed there a few weeks ago.....
went over the top..... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810486
11/4/2009 6:18 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
I'm not saying that this Ukrainian flu experience is true and I'm not saying that the swine flu vaccine is in reality something of a detriment to our population. However, I would just like to point out that, in regards to Joseph Moshe and others like him, that there is a way to deal with whistleblowers.
It is called "Nuts and sluts." That is if the person is male (though females do apply sometimes) he will be regarded as insane (nuts). There will be "tests" done on him by psychologists to determine this and then he will be declared mentally unstable. And mentally unstable is the modern Leprocy, at least according to Michel Foucault (French Philosopher).
The sluts strategy is similar to the nuts strategy save for the fact it is primarily done to women, and most notably done to Jesselyn Raddack. Jesselyn Raddack went to Brown and had posed in playboy during her years there. Afterwards she worked for the U.S. department of Justice. She blew the whistle on ethical treatment of a man named John Walker Lindh. She was forced out of her job.
There is the Whistleblower Protection Act; think of it as a way to make you feel comfortable as laws are written with loopholes in them. When you need to use the law you use it and when you need to get around it there are loopholes waiting.
If any of you are interested in this. Look up Peggy Desautels Resisting Organizational Power |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 794136
11/4/2009 6:31 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Don't believe it. We know they are liars. What's the chance these are honest stats when we are already in the middle of the regular swine hoax scam? ZERO. IT'S ALL LIES AND FEAR MONGERING, DON'T BELIEVE IT. "Oh the swine flue is a scam, but this one is real". Fuck that. It's all lies, trust me.
They know we have no way of corroborating these stats, as we are all neck deep struggling to work, eat and stay alive.
Karma will deal with them SEVERELY eventually. Unfortunately it is too late, as they already unleashed their new viral disease onto millions via the trap swine vaccine. Millions of idiots fell for it. I'm disappointed ANYBODY fell for this obvious ploy to poison. Lots of us saw it coming. Most are blind and delusional and trust the news. |
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booo!!!
User ID: 802074
11/4/2009 6:42 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
ive read all sorts of things on here about this ukraine 'pneumonic plague'.
all hospitals quarantined.
1000's dead with many more seriously ill.
military and police stopping travel between towns to try and contain it.
prospect of martial law.
etc etc...
yet i can still buy a flight to the ukraine...ummmm |
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arosebyanyothername
User ID: 522638
11/4/2009 7:11 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Common this just plain bs 478000 infected and 17 deaths please give me a break a regular cold wreaks more heavoc than that!
I guess that's what they said in 1918. |
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arosebyanyothername
User ID: 522638
11/4/2009 7:13 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
OMG OMG IT'S WINTER AND COLD AND SHIT AND PEOPLE GOT THE FLU OMFG OMFG RED ALERT RED ALERT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810190
Not this year! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810520
11/4/2009 7:13 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
its alright for you Americans (for now) as you know you are way over the pond away from them. But here in the UK we let rouge ukranian refugees come thru the channel tunnel and over on trucks and boats and we just let them walk striaght in,(just like you do with mexican aliens)
So the dirty infected ukranians will surely bring the pluage straight to the UK.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 616993
11/4/2009 7:14 PM | |
arosebyanyothername
User ID: 522638
11/4/2009 7:24 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
/yawn
yeah, thats what happens during the flu season. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550635
yeah, right. open your eyes. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 538053
11/4/2009 7:37 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Nice web site in Ukrain with good info/news
in English!
[link to zik.com.ua]
sorry unable to paste any good parts because this PS3 Im on wont allow me for some reason... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810537
11/4/2009 7:41 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
12 Monkeys Ukraine outbreak connection
[link to www.youtube.com] |
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