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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 12:31 PM
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[link to www.earthtimes.org]
Ukraine flu outbreak widens, Kiev announces control moves - Summary
Posted on : 2009-11-04 | Author : dpa
News Category : Health
Kiev - Ukraine's deadly flu outbreak widened on Wednesday, as government officials announced new emergency measures in an attempt to control the spread of the illness. More than 478,000 people were registered with national health authorities as suffering from the flu, of whom 17 had confirmed cases of swine flu, Health Ministry spokeswoman Lyudmila Luharska said.
The nationwide death count from flu-related illnesses since late October stood at 86, Luharska said at a Kiev press conference, according to the Ukrainska Pravda website.
Flu infection was highest in Ukraine's western Lviv, Ternopil and Ivano-Frankivsk provinces, where reports of flu to health authorities had doubled since the weekend, she said.
Four deaths from the virulent swine flu strain were confirmed as of Thursday, Luharska said.
One man who died of swine flu was a Kiev resident, the news agency Interfax reported. A second person in the Ukrainian capital was suspected of having been infected with swine flu.
The Kiev swine flu death marked the first jump of swine flu from Ukraine's western provinces, where the flu outbreak has been concentrated so far, to Kiev, Ukraine's largest metropolitan area.
Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko said at a meeting that her government would enact more emergency measures to control the disease's spread and to combat retail shortages of anti-flu drugs and protective anti-infection masks.
Tymoshenko said the government would prepare a plan "within a week" to establish a nationwide chain of state-run drug sales centres to combat what she called hoarding and price-gouging by the private health industry, according to a report by the Korrespondent website.
The centres, each offering a limited assortment of some 100 basic anti-cold and flu drugs, would operate in government-run hospitals and clinics, and sell medical supplies at a marginal price mark-up, Tymoshenko said.
Tymoshenko also instructed Foreign Minister Petro Poroshenko to obtain a "special pandemic price" in negotiations with international drug companies for emergency deliveries of anti-flu drugs to Ukraine, according to an Interfax report.
Government textile and clothes factories have received 1 million metres of gauze and cheesecloth from state reserves, Tymoshenko said,and emergency production of surgical masks was beginning, according to a TSN television news report.
Initial deliveries of cloth masks would reach the general public in seven days, "sufficient to provide every Ukrainian citizen two masks," she said.
Factories in Kharkiv and the hard-hit Lviv region would produce the masks, according to Ukrainian media reports. Tymoshenko on Monday said that if necessary, her government would commit 6 million metres of gauze and cheesecloth to the emergency mask production programme.
Tymoshenko was scheduled to travel to the Lviv province, the epicentre of the flu outbreak, on Thursday afternoon, according to a Cabinet of Ministers statement. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 12:38 PM | |
xc
User ID: 800969
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11/4/2009 12:39 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Common this just plain bs 478000 infected and 17 deaths please give me a break a regular cold wreaks more heavoc than that!
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Hitndahedfred
User ID: 805706
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11/4/2009 12:39 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Death toll rises to 86 in Ukraine flu epidemic
(AFP) – 1 hour ago
KIEV — Eighty-six people have died in Ukraine from flu and respiratory infections, the health ministry said Wednesday, in an epidemic the World Health Organisation said could be largely due to the A(H1N1) virus.
The ministry said that almost half a million cases of flu and acute respiratory infections had been recorded since mid-October in the country of 46 million, while 24,000 people have been hospitalised.
Some 148,000 cases have been recorded in the past 24 hours, it added.
The epidemic is concentrated in the west of the country which has borders with four European Union states but a growing number of cases are being reported in the capital Kiev.
"As the pandemic virus has rapidly become the dominant influenza strain worldwide, it can be assumed that most cases of influenza in Ukraine are caused by the H1N1 virus," the WHO said on Tuesday.
Lyudmila Mukharska, Ukraine's deputy chief health officer, said the authorities had confirmed that five of the dead had died of the H1N1 virus.
She vehemently denied rumours that the west of the country was suffering from an outbreak of plague, saying that it was "H1N1 that is circulating in Ukraine".
The WHO has sent a team of nine experts to Ukraine to help the authorities with the situation.
While the country is suffering from an above-average infection rate, many independent observers have accused Ukraine's squabbling politicians of seeking to profit from the situation ahead of January 17 presidential elections.
Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko has personally overseen a delivery of anti-flu medicines in the middle of the night while pro-Western President Viktor Yushchenko even called on NATO for help.
"Many questions remain to be answered," said the WHO.
"The outbreak in Ukraine may be indicative of how the virus can behave in the northern hemisphere during the winter season, particularly in health care settings typically found in Eastern Europe."
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 781451 (OP)
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11/4/2009 12:42 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
notice how they are calling it the flu .. has anyone seen this on any major news outlets |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 526155
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11/4/2009 12:43 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
A half million people are sick???!!!    |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806478
 Australia
11/4/2009 12:46 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
This has been going on since the weekend major fline swu shilling.
Its fear to get people to take the poison vaccine. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713252
United States
11/4/2009 12:46 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
People get sick in the winter, it's just the way the cookie crumbles. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810273
United States
11/4/2009 12:48 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
lol- yep - chriswtmas is flu season- and has been for as long as i have been alive
stupid idiot coward retards |
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lil*miss 
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11/4/2009 12:48 PM
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Common this just plain bs 478000 infected and 17 deaths please give me a break a regular cold wreaks more heavoc than that!
Yes, but is their medical system equipped to deal with almost half a million flu cases? If not, things could go fubar a lot quicker than you might think. |
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LEO-
User ID: 745151
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11/4/2009 12:50 PM
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is there a pneumonia plague? or just h1n1? |
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lil*miss
User ID: 803442
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11/4/2009 12:51 PM
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is there a pneumonia plague? or just h1n1? Quoting: LEO-
One pinned thread says pneumonic plague, another says flu. We need more information. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611049
 United Kingdom
11/4/2009 12:53 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Details are pretty sketchy. Nearly half a million sick but only a few deaths? Either the deaths are being under estimated or the number of people with so-called flu is way exaggerated. If it was pneumonic plague there would be thousands of deaths as it has a 100% mortality rate if left untreated. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 806478
Australia
11/4/2009 12:55 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Numbers are fear mongering as usual.
[link to www.bloomberg.com]
Ukraine faces an outbreak of flu-like illness that’s killed at least 67 people and infected 255,000, according to the country’s first deputy health minister Vasyl Lazoryshynets. About 22 patients tested positive for swine flu
On November 2, at Ukraine's request, the WHO sent a team of experts to determine if the same strain of H1N1 is responsible for the approximately 70 recent flu deaths in the country.
[link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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WhoCares?
User ID: 781230
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11/4/2009 12:57 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Kiev - Ukraine's deadly flu outbreak widened on Wednesday, as government officials announced new emergency measures in an attempt to control the spread of the illness. More than 478,000 people were registered with national health authorities as suffering from the flu, of whom 17 had confirmed cases of swine flu, Health Ministry spokeswoman Lyudmila Luharska said. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781451
So then out of 45,994,288 people, only 478,000 are affected. This is only a little over 1% of the population. The number of deaths, 86, is only .000179% of the population (that's right ... far less than even 1 percent of the population). So far things aren't looking too bad in the Ukraine.
These stats in and of themselves suggest that this is just being hyped up for some reason(that's a can of worms that I won't open on this thread). But if we were to compare them to the average flu season in the united states of america they look even less threatening. On average only 5% to 20% of the population get the flu in the states of those that get sick 30,000 die per year which is just .01 percent of the population. These numbers as small as they are, are much larger, as of now, in comparison to Ukraine. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 12:59 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
the number of people with so-called flu is way exaggerated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 611049
correct |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 767077
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11/4/2009 1:00 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
notice how they are calling it the flu .. has anyone seen this on any major news outlets Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781451
BBC played it in America last nite on PBS |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 767077
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11/4/2009 1:01 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
is there a pneumonia plague? or just h1n1?
One pinned thread says pneumonic plague, another says flu. We need more information. Quoting: lil*miss
Geeze folks....Its a fucking cold. Everyone who is sick doesnt have the flu. People could have many other viruses. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 810190
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11/4/2009 1:02 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
OMG OMG IT'S WINTER AND COLD AND SHIT AND PEOPLE GOT THE FLU OMFG OMFG RED ALERT RED ALERT |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 781230
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11/4/2009 1:06 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
The red coats are coming the red coats are coming!!!!!!! |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 1:06 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
"The official new Swine Flu Thread" has some excellent information, including information about Joseph Moshe the microbiologist involved in the bizarre L.A. standoff, who said that Baxter in the Ukraine was producing a bio-weapon in the form of a vaccine, which would replicate the Spanish Flu of 1918.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 1:09 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
This has been going on since the weekend major fline swu shilling.
Its fear to get people to take the poison vaccine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 806478
Agreed. A Ukraine health official said there is no wide spread sickness! Ukraine president is HIGHLY unpopular and this is being called an election tactic. |
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anonymous
User ID: 810079
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11/4/2009 1:14 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Details are pretty sketchy. Nearly half a million sick but only a few deaths? Either the deaths are being under estimated or the number of people with so-called flu is way exaggerated. If it was pneumonic plague there would be thousands of deaths as it has a 100% mortality rate if left untreated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 611049
maybe some have some previous protections from past infections.. . i many would have had bad illness as that region is not modern . or death rates are not conclusive.. |
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skylamer
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11/4/2009 1:14 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
[ link to www.earthtimes.org]
Ukraine flu outbreak widens, Kiev announces control moves - Summary
Posted on : 2009-11-04 | Author : dpa
News Category : Health
Kiev - Ukraine's deadly flu outbreak widened on Wednesday, as government officials announced new emergency measures in an attempt to control the spread of the illness. More than 478,000 people were registered with national health authorities as suffering from the flu, of whom 17 had confirmed cases of swine flu, Health Ministry spokeswoman Lyudmila Luharska said.
The nationwide death count from flu-related illnesses since late October stood at 86, Luharska said at a Kiev press conference, according to the Ukrainska Pravda website.
Flu infection was highest in Ukraine's western Lviv, Ternopil and Ivano-Frankivsk provinces, where reports of flu to health authorities had doubled since the weekend, she said.
Four deaths from the virulent swine flu strain were confirmed as of Thursday, Luharska said.
One man who died of swine flu was a Kiev resident, the news agency Interfax reported. A second person in the Ukrainian capital was suspected of having been infected with swine flu.
The Kiev swine flu death marked the first jump of swine flu from Ukraine's western provinces, where the flu outbreak has been concentrated so far, to Kiev, Ukraine's largest metropolitan area.
Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko said at a meeting that her government would enact more emergency measures to control the disease's spread and to combat retail shortages of anti-flu drugs and protective anti-infection masks.
Tymoshenko said the government would prepare a plan "within a week" to establish a nationwide chain of state-run drug sales centres to combat what she called hoarding and price-gouging by the private health industry, according to a report by the Korrespondent website.
The centres, each offering a limited assortment of some 100 basic anti-cold and flu drugs, would operate in government-run hospitals and clinics, and sell medical supplies at a marginal price mark-up, Tymoshenko said.
Tymoshenko also instructed Foreign Minister Petro Poroshenko to obtain a "special pandemic price" in negotiations with international drug companies for emergency deliveries of anti-flu drugs to Ukraine, according to an Interfax report.
Government textile and clothes factories have received 1 million metres of gauze and cheesecloth from state reserves, Tymoshenko said,and emergency production of surgical masks was beginning, according to a TSN television news report.
Initial deliveries of cloth masks would reach the general public in seven days, "sufficient to provide every Ukrainian citizen two masks," she said.
Factories in Kharkiv and the hard-hit Lviv region would produce the masks, according to Ukrainian media reports. Tymoshenko on Monday said that if necessary, her government would commit 6 million metres of gauze and cheesecloth to the emergency mask production programme.
Tymoshenko was scheduled to travel to the Lviv province, the epicentre of the flu outbreak, on Thursday afternoon, according to a Cabinet of Ministers statement.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_by_country
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 418498
United States
11/4/2009 1:23 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
There are two key points that I think this is all based upon.
First, remember we are in a pandemic (no matter how mild it is, it can also mutate).
Second, I think they are worrisome in the Ukraine because of the 'speed' this has taken off. We're not talking about a tally from Oct. to Feb. like during a 'normal' flu season here. The latest deaths might have been from a week ago and the test results are only just in, or perhaps these deaths occured a week or two after they became ill. The total amount of people reported ill may have only been sick for a couple days. Hence, the concern.
Give this a couple more weeks. Watch for fatalities in a week or so. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711379
United States
11/4/2009 2:32 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
Even if people aren't dieing,478,000 sick with the
flu will shut down the economy
no cops,no truck drivers,no grocers,no doctors,no nurses
This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
It means is Old Testament,real wrath of God type stuff. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 550635
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11/4/2009 2:34 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
/yawn
yeah, thats what happens during the flu season. |
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Anonymous Coward
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11/4/2009 2:36 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
/yawn
yeah, thats what happens during the flu season. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550635
Doctors in Ukraine are claiming their patients are bleeding and dying with black lungs. Slovakia shipped half of their reserves of gauze bandages as requested by Ukraine. Regular flu, eh? |
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SEADOG
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11/4/2009 2:41 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
/yawn
yeah, thats what happens during the flu season. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 550635
No it isn't!!!
If one is to believe any of this, there are three significant issues:
1. Dissimilar symptoms and etiology.
2. Speed of propogation.
3. Geographic clustering.
Ignorant denial is often worse than ignorant approval.
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-Robert A. Heinlein |
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Aquarius 7
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11/4/2009 2:44 PM
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Don't forget they were subjected to horrific aerial spraying just a couple weeks ago.
Any connection? 
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“Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on Thee: because he trusts in Thee.” ~ Isaiah 26:3 |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 294757
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11/4/2009 2:49 PM | | Re: Ukraine 'Flu' Outbreak Widens: Currently 478,000 with 'flu' symptoms | Quote |
There are two key points that I think this is all based upon.
First, remember we are in a pandemic (no matter how mild it is, it can also mutate).
Second, I think they are worrisome in the Ukraine because of the 'speed' this has taken off. We're not talking about a tally from Oct. to Feb. like during a 'normal' flu season here. The latest deaths might have been from a week ago and the test results are only just in, or perhaps these deaths occured a week or two after they became ill. The total amount of people reported ill may have only been sick for a couple days. Hence, the concern.
Give this a couple more weeks. Watch for fatalities in a week or so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 418498
Yea believe it or not I actually believe some of the stuff the DOCTORS at the WHO have to say and they say the concern here is how fast its spreading which must be pretty fast since the swine flu itself spreads fast. |
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