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ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17
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Bonnie
User ID: 776717
 United States
10/12/2009 11:16 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
Any more info, OP? Thanks for your work - much appreciated. |
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Ice 
User ID: 729060
United States
10/12/2009 5:25 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 728223 (OP)
United States
10/12/2009 5:32 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
Nothing spectalur has happened since my last posting, and I have only glanced. I'm up to my ears in car repairs atm. Flushing rad, new plugs, new head gasket (yeah, it's like a route canal) and an oil flush and change. Freakin head gasket blew and turned my oil into a milkshake and theres oil in my radiator. Ugghhh! At least it's something I can do and not pay for labor, pheew.
This thread is probably going to hibernate a little bit until those areas act up again. I'm sure it will happen as that is how it goes. I expect a lot of start/stop/start/stop activity before the big eruption.
Later, off to get my hands dirty. |
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Truthseekr
User ID: 757308
United States
10/12/2009 5:37 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
if your so sure it will erupt then why fix the car.. |
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Resister
In God we trust
User ID: 669410
United States
10/12/2009 5:57 PM
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if your so sure it will erupt then why fix the car.. Quoting: Truthseekr
Remember what we learned from the Mad Max movies. Everyone must have a working car! Preferably a supercharged V8 ;)
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Truthseekr
User ID: 750653
United States
10/13/2009 8:08 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
if your so sure it will erupt then why fix the car..
Remember what we learned from the Mad Max movies. Everyone must have a working car! Preferably a supercharged V8 ;) Quoting: Resister
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White Widow
User ID: 792971
 Chile
10/13/2009 11:19 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
Interesting news article:
[link to www.redorbit.com]
Deadly Earthquakes Have Experts Questioning Scientific Thought
Posted on: Monday, 12 October 2009, 12:35 CDT
Many Asia-Pacific communities have been devastated by a sudden cluster of massive earthquakes that left thousands dead and led some scientists to question conventional thought on seismic activity, AFP reported.
After huge tremors rocked Samoa and Indonesia on the same day, and another major convulsion happened in Vanuatu, some experts who dismissed notions that far-away quakes could be linked are beginning to reconsider.
A powerful tsunami smashed Samoa, American Samoa and Tonga on September 30, leaving some 184 people dead. Meanwhile, thousands are feared dead after parts of Indonesia's Padang city were reduced to rubble just hours later.
Thousands of panicked people fled the coast on Thursday as a rapid succession of large quakes off Vanuatu set off a tsunami warning for much of the South Pacific.
Veteran earthquake-watcher Gary Gibson is discarding his theory that it was all down to chance and is now searching for a possible connection.
Gibson, senior seismologist at Environmental Systems and Services consulting group, told AFP he could no longer keep using the response that it's all a big coincidence.
"But what would the (link) mechanism be? Nobody has come up with a good story."
Huilin Xing of the University of Queensland proposed a possible link between the Samoan and Indonesian earthquakes that happened 6,000 miles apart.
He believes the fast-moving Australian tectonic plate might have set off one quake, and then the other, adding there were similar correlations of the quakes in the different places.
"For two great earthquakes to occur within hours in such a way, it is abnormal," Xing said.
The 7.6, 7.8 and 7.3 Vanuatu earthquakes on Thursday also came just minutes after another large tremor shook the Philippines.
Gibson said he’d been working in the field for 30 years and never seen anything like it before.
"When you get this many large earthquakes on the Australian plate boundary it's stretching the concept of just coincidence. But nobody I know has published a link that will stand up in all cases," he added.
He said he personally thinks there may well be something else and he’s continuing to look for it.
Kevin McCue, president of the Australian Earthquake Engineering Society, said the tremors in Samoa and Vanuatu had a historical precursor, but he rejected ideas of any connection between the Pacific and Indonesian quakes.
A major earthquake rocked Samoa in 1917 and was followed three years later by another of similar size off Vanuatu, with both going off close to the recent quakes' epicenters, McCue said.
However, the high activity in different areas was simply part of the random nature of earthquakes, he added.
"It's just the nature of the beast -- you have a cluster of events then you wait months without one," he said.
But McCue said it was possible there's something more, as experts don't really know what's happening down there.
Note: Text bolded by me. |
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Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 780906
 Australia
10/13/2009 11:28 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
Interesting news article:
[ link to www.redorbit.com]
Deadly Earthquakes Have Experts Questioning Scientific Thought
Posted on: Monday, 12 October 2009, 12:35 CDT
Note: Text bolded by me.
I have explained as best I can since 2006 here on GLP. The Pacific plate has been my study area for around 25 years. A larger thread is here between Oddfellow and my self.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
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White Widow
User ID: 792971
Chile
10/13/2009 11:33 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
I have explained as best I can since 2006 here on GLP. The Pacific plate has been my study area for around 25 years. A larger thread is here between Oddfellow and my self.
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Good one, but last post is from 2006. Are we "keep walking" on present thread ? |
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Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 780906
Australia
10/13/2009 11:35 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
One of my original comments back in 2006
Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 98766
8/8/2006 8:29 AM
MAP 6.7 2006/08/07 221855 -15.868 167.762 149.7 VANUATU
MAP 4.7 2006/08/07 15:58:37 -23.555 -179.977 575.9 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS
MAP 4.4 2006/08/07 14:17:23 -16.166 -175.233 278.7 TONGA
Note the 6.7 for Vanuatu had precursors in Fiji and Tonga, these are on the "spur" of the Australian plate where it meets the Pacific plate,
[link to www.iris.edu]
further stress will be placed on the Pacific/North American plate boundary.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
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Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 780906
Australia
10/13/2009 11:36 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
I have explained as best I can since 2006 here on GLP. The Pacific plate has been my study area for around 25 years. A larger thread is here between Oddfellow and my self.
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Good one, but last post is from 2006. Are we "keep walking" on present thread ?
There were reasons for leaving GLP for a time.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
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Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 780906
Australia
10/13/2009 11:37 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
This really amazing site is still up.
[link to topex.ucsd.edu]
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710009
United States
10/13/2009 11:43 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
I recently posted on this subject... [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I am certain this is the precursor to a monumental event. It would seem that we could see a devestating alteration of a continent or string of islands... Write it off if you will, but I'll be keeping an eye on this situation. |
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Prof_Rabbit
User ID: 780906
Australia
10/13/2009 11:44 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
You can get a high-res chart here.
[link to element.ess.ucla.edu]
And if someone in Oz has the ability to print a full size (ie. 3ft x 6ft) I would really appreciate one.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 787502
 United Kingdom
10/13/2009 11:48 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
Nice thread, untill I realized ICE was into it. He always picks a loser |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
10/13/2009 12:36 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
One of my original comments back in 2006
Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 98766
8/8/2006 8:29 AM
MAP 6.7 2006/08/07 221855 -15.868 167.762 149.7 VANUATU
MAP 4.7 2006/08/07 15:58:37 -23.555 -179.977 575.9 SOUTH OF THE FIJI ISLANDS
MAP 4.4 2006/08/07 14:17:23 -16.166 -175.233 278.7 TONGA
Note the 6.7 for Vanuatu had precursors in Fiji and Tonga, these are on the "spur" of the Australian plate where it meets the Pacific plate,
[link to www.iris.edu]
further stress will be placed on the Pacific/North American plate boundary. Quoting: Prof_Rabbit
Respectfully PR can you translate what all these mean in simple to understand English? I can understand that deep earthquakes of high magnitude are bad due to the nature of plate tectonics.
So could you summarize your 25 years of observing the Pacific plate what is going on? I really would like to learn what these things mean. I have a rudimentary grasp of geology and physics. Thank you. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 728223 (OP)
United States
10/13/2009 12:41 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
if your so sure it will erupt then why fix the car.. Quoting: Truthseekr
I'm not going to answer that one......duh |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 736153
United States
10/13/2009 12:44 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
Respectfully PR can you translate what all these mean in simple to understand English? I can understand that deep earthquakes of high magnitude are bad due to the nature of plate tectonics.
So could you summarize your 25 years of observing the Pacific plate what is going on? I really would like to learn what these things mean. I have a rudimentary grasp of geology and physics. Thank you.
iE prof, whats up the the deep quakes?? me thinks geology s fubu based on these quakes and their depth. |
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White Widow
User ID: 792971
Chile
10/13/2009 3:54 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
DONT MISS IT
Full 69 page JOINT RESEARCH CENTRE, EUROP.COMMISSION
29. SEPT. 2009 - SAMOA TSUNAMI
Lot's of info, data, pictures, graphs, etc to get your phD
[link to www.gdacs.org]
Have fun |
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Prince Akkiko
User ID: 793569
 Philippines
10/13/2009 11:49 PM
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Why do they give too much scientific explanation when the only simple reason is this:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Our haven is arising. Earthquakes and pacific pressures are underway. You don't need to stumble for any explanation. The answer is simple. |
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Ice
User ID: 729060
United States
10/14/2009 5:42 PM
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Nice thread, untill I realized ICE was into it. He always picks a loser Quoting: Anonymous Coward 787502
man
I can just feel the love
ice
Tomorrow is a hope not a promise! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 793984
United Kingdom
10/14/2009 5:56 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
I recently posted on this subject... [ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I am certain this is the precursor to a monumental event. It would seem that we could see a devestating alteration of a continent or string of islands... Write it off if you will, but I'll be keeping an eye on this situation.
i'm no expert, and i'd appreciate any criticism of my theory, but I'm wondering if the CONTINENTAL crust connected to the Australian plate is doing something here? It's the light blue off the north of Australia on the Iris link here..
[link to www.iris.edu]
..is it pushing up the plate north of it? Is something similar to what happened when India slammed into Asia about to happen?
Can you see what I'm saying?
the ocean floor has no trouble subducting, cos it's so thin, but the thicker continental crust, which as you can see is butting right up against the plate north of it MUST be creating extraordinary stresses.
also, the recent very deep EQs, deeper than 400 Kms, are east and west of that light blue area. Is some sort of disconnection already occurring at depth in preparation for some massive tectonic event?
As I said, feel free to flame this idea, but it's worth considering, isn't it? |
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Truthseekr
User ID: 757308
United States
10/14/2009 7:37 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
I recently posted on this subject... [ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I am certain this is the precursor to a monumental event. It would seem that we could see a devestating alteration of a continent or string of islands... Write it off if you will, but I'll be keeping an eye on this situation.
i'm no expert, and i'd appreciate any criticism of my theory, but I'm wondering if the CONTINENTAL crust connected to the Australian plate is doing something here? It's the light blue off the north of Australia on the Iris link here..
[ link to www.iris.edu]
..is it pushing up the plate north of it? Is something similar to what happened when India slammed into Asia about to happen?
Can you see what I'm saying?
the ocean floor has no trouble subducting, cos it's so thin, but the thicker continental crust, which as you can see is butting right up against the plate north of it MUST be creating extraordinary stresses.
also, the recent very deep EQs, deeper than 400 Kms, are east and west of that light blue area. Is some sort of disconnection already occurring at depth in preparation for some massive tectonic event?
As I said, feel free to flame this idea, but it's worth considering, isn't it?
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4009
United States
10/14/2009 7:45 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 728223 (OP)
United States
10/16/2009 2:18 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
Something big is going to happen soon. I feel it. But on that note, I may be wrong and I'm not claiming prophetic powers. Just a feeling deep inside.
I feel a big quake is coming, not sure where, but it's coming in the next 24-48 hours.
See you guys then |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
10/16/2009 2:22 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
I recently posted on this subject... [ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I am certain this is the precursor to a monumental event. It would seem that we could see a devestating alteration of a continent or string of islands... Write it off if you will, but I'll be keeping an eye on this situation.
i'm no expert, and i'd appreciate any criticism of my theory, but I'm wondering if the CONTINENTAL crust connected to the Australian plate is doing something here? It's the light blue off the north of Australia on the Iris link here..
[ link to www.iris.edu]
..is it pushing up the plate north of it? Is something similar to what happened when India slammed into Asia about to happen?
Can you see what I'm saying?
the ocean floor has no trouble subducting, cos it's so thin, but the thicker continental crust, which as you can see is butting right up against the plate north of it MUST be creating extraordinary stresses.
also, the recent very deep EQs, deeper than 400 Kms, are east and west of that light blue area. Is some sort of disconnection already occurring at depth in preparation for some massive tectonic event?
As I said, feel free to flame this idea, but it's worth considering, isn't it?
I can't flame the idea, something is happening. I also recall hearing something about Australia and 2012 theories but at this point can't remember if that is supposed to be where everyone will be or not.
Good theory in my opinion. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 728223 (OP)
United States
10/16/2009 3:31 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
I recently posted on this subject... [ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
I am certain this is the precursor to a monumental event. It would seem that we could see a devestating alteration of a continent or string of islands... Write it off if you will, but I'll be keeping an eye on this situation.
i'm no expert, and i'd appreciate any criticism of my theory, but I'm wondering if the CONTINENTAL crust connected to the Australian plate is doing something here? It's the light blue off the north of Australia on the Iris link here..
[ link to www.iris.edu]
..is it pushing up the plate north of it? Is something similar to what happened when India slammed into Asia about to happen?
Can you see what I'm saying?
the ocean floor has no trouble subducting, cos it's so thin, but the thicker continental crust, which as you can see is butting right up against the plate north of it MUST be creating extraordinary stresses.
also, the recent very deep EQs, deeper than 400 Kms, are east and west of that light blue area. Is some sort of disconnection already occurring at depth in preparation for some massive tectonic event?
As I said, feel free to flame this idea, but it's worth considering, isn't it?
Interesting theory. I could see that easily being the case. I'm going to think on it and let my subconscious give me an Ah ha moment. I'll let you all know what I think or have to add to it. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 796746
United Kingdom
10/18/2009 8:23 AM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
Is there a reason a lot of the earthquakes are on 1 side of the Earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 785666
there are two main areas, Indonesia/Phillipnes, that sort of general area, and off the coast of South America, and GUESS WHAT?
they are ANTIPODAL!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 656642
United States
10/19/2009 1:11 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
as more earthquakes are hitting the region. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 797817
United States
10/21/2009 8:38 PM | | Re: ALERT - Toba Super Volcano, New Intense Swarm Starts Again - NOV 9 - UPDATE PG 17 | Quote |
6.1 2009/10/16 09:52:53
-6.613 105.182 50.6 SUNDA STRAIT, INDONESIA
4.8 2009/10/18 10:47:29
-3.679 101.345 54.2 SOUTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA
4.7 2009/10/18 23:29:11
-1.083 97.805 31.4 SOUTHWEST OF SUMATRA, INDONESIA
4.9 2009/10/19 16:35:11
-1.726 100.537 77.9 SOUTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA
4.8 2009/10/20 09:28:50
12.000 94.985 35.0 ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION
goooo toba! TOBA! TOBA! TOBA! |
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